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re: Has there ever been a lazier generation than the latest generation of "workers" ?

Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:44 am to
Posted by Mlear
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
78 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:44 am to
There's literally newspaper articles from like the 1910s talking about "Nobody wants to work anymore"
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:47 am to
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There's literally newspaper articles from like the 1910s talking about "Nobody wants to work anymore"


Ive seen pieces from England in the 1820s or some shite like that, bemoaning the work ethic of the younger generation.

Almost like every old person ever has had the same complaint.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:48 am to
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There's literally newspaper articles from like the 1910s talking about "Nobody wants to work anymore"


People could survive with dirt farms in those days.

Now they have their hands out, living off government or parents.

I personally think its great. The kids that have desire to work will do awesome.
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 9:49 am
Posted by PikesPeak
The Penalty Box
Member since Apr 2022
831 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:57 am to
You work at a shite company if you’re sending four people to the hospital regularly for safety infractions.

You’re being incredibly disingenuous by taking one incident (if it even happened) and applying it to an entire group of workers just to make people your age seem like the perfect employee
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 10:10 am to
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What would you expect when they are being indoctrinated by the school system that there is more than two sexes, and homosexuality is normal?


Yeah, we could fix all our economic issues if we were just mean to the gays again.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
144464 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 10:17 am to
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and companies still can't get them to come back to the office.
yea they can. Sorry your C Suite is a bunch of limp wrist. Prayers sent
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
3248 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:01 am to
Most high skill jobs are done 100% on a computer now and based out of offices in large cities. In an office setting you drive an hour to work in heavy traffic, sit at your computer in a cubicle, and have online Teams meetings with colleagues 5 cubicles away and with co-workers in other large cities doing the same thing. Then you drive another hour home. Simple tasks like taking your kid to the doctor eat up a whole work day. In that kind of environment, why wouldn't an employee question the value of coming in to the office when they could get much more done in their home office with less distraction, no commute, and handle quick personal issues in an hour or less instead of taking a whole day off?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:04 am to
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Yeah, we could fix all our economic issues if we were just mean to the gays again.


What a weird take.

He said nothing of the sort, your mind just went there.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:05 am to
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Almost like every old person ever has had the same complaint.


Its pretty awesome. Makes youtube hilarious watching daily zoomer meltdowns.

I'm just happy for the few competent ones, they'll do very well in this world, the competition sucks.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
1962 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:09 am to
Everyone getting a trophy is the primary reason.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:11 am to
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Everyone getting a trophy is the primary reason.


That and having to "affirm" every retarded idea these kids come up with. They never learn objective truth and think anything they choose to believe, you must accept it.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16705 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:13 am to
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In an office setting you drive an hour to work in heavy traffic, sit at your computer in a cubicle, and have online Teams meetings with colleagues 5 cubicles away and with co-workers in other large cities doing the same thing.


That is quite a generalization. Sure it's true for some but definitely not all.

I'll say there's absolutely an advantage to working next to your colleagues and being able to pop your head in someone's office for a question or discussion rather than relying on a Teams meeting or email.

I mean think about it logically. What setting is more conducive to good collaboration? In person or remote?

That being said, I don't think 100% in office is the answer either. A good mix is probably the best approach.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
144464 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:22 am to
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Makes youtube hilarious watching daily zoomer meltdowns.
how about you get a job
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
21419 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:22 am to
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This is the softest generation ever. They have no concept of actually buckling down and really getting after it,


It’s tough to find good workers in this group but can be done. I have 3 under 35 tech guys that work for me that are fricking go getters. Some of my best employees. When you find them keep them happy.
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
1723 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:24 am to
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The Covid Lockdowns have been over for years now, and companies still can't get them to come back to the office.
They act as if it is the simple act of actually showing up for work is cruel & unusual punishment.
Companies should tell them to show up by a given date or they are fired, period.


I am 74 born so not exactly this generation of workers. But I will tell you one think, the nature of work is changing.

An ace salesman, does not need to show up for work at the office and sit at a desk. He needs to get on the road meeting customers.

An ace computer programmer does not need to travel 3 hrs to and from work every day only to open a laptop and get to work. His 3 hours is better spent, working and churning out IT products.

On the other hand a doctor needs to come into work every day to treat his patients.

A lawyer needs to show up in court.

But I do agree, employers have a right to require an employee spend time in the office and employees should comply, the former needs to evaluate trust issues, nature of work and productivity.
Posted by TripleBarrelBluff1
Sin City
Member since Aug 2024
2430 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:48 am to
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People could survive with dirt farms in those days.

Now they have their hands out, living off government or parents.


Roger, you're about a third as smart as you think you are.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:52 am to
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Roger, you're about a third as smart as you think you are.


Youre pointing to a 10 year period in a country where people have lived for 300+ years.

Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
1962 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 12:18 pm to
Even a lot of negative and stupid shite gets a ton of clicks on social media which makes always doing the right things less relevant. I call it the Jack arse affect.
Posted by IndianMoundFireworks
Member since Oct 2021
576 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 12:32 pm to
This is difficult to account for because there’s a wide range of generations working. You don’t think boomers are taking advantage of work from home and didn’t bitch when it was time to go back to the office?
I don’t think student loans should be paid off either. People should choose colleges more in line with what they can afford. At the same time college is more expensive than ever. The average college tuition is not affordable working part time while in school and it used to be. It’s impossible now. The parents of millennials and gen z also pushed their kids to go to college rather than work trades. Their parents are not faultless in this pursuit and co signing on those loans.
I appreciate some of your “get off my lawn” post but it’s not as simple as you make it out to be.
Posted by Candyman
Member since Sep 2017
641 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 12:49 pm to
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Rather lame response. The problem is there is a vacuum in the labor force with Boomers retiring the last decade. Many companies are operating at 50% of the skilled labor force needed to fill all of their contracts.

Anyone in a Union is getting under paid.


Lame response??WTF? It doesn't take a genius to see what is happening. Everything on our shelves is made in a foreign country, and you believe that has no effect on the economy? I walk in to a local contractors office (Performance, Turner, Brown and Root) looking work and there is a line of Mexicans going outside the door that are getting hired in, yet when I get to the window they say, "we ain't hiring." That doesn't have an effect on the workforce?

I have 30 years experience along with many other people and have trouble finding work, so there isn't a shortage of skilled labor in the workforce. You sound like one of those college idiots that overthinks everything, but can't change a lightbulb because you lack common sense. Many don't want to hire older people in industry because they know the game. They follow the safety rules which slows down production. They want a young inexperienced guy (or migrant) that will bend or break rules and get production done, and when an accident happens, supervision will blame it on the inexperienced worker or the migrant that couldn't understand or read English. This problem goes much deeper than what you posted. What I have seen in the last few years is frightening.

The only union members that are getting underpaid are the ones here, in the deep south. This is because of the state government being paid off to pass anti union legislation. Up north, this doesn't happen. That's why when you join a union in Louisiana, they want to send you out of state. They have little work here, and there are no strike contracts, which is like not having a union. Northern companies move down here only because of the lack of labor laws and unions that other states have. They can do whatever they choose. You sound like a union buster spreading bullshite.
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