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re: Has technology today made great photography less impressive?

Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:21 pm to
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turn mediocre pictures into great ones.
No amount of post production is turning a mediocre picture into a great picture.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:26 pm to
I don’t think so.

Just because you have more cameras in hands doesn’t mean they’re producing higher quality pictures. See all the stay at home Mom’s in my feed that suddenly have some photog LLC.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:27 pm to
I used to roast them until I figured out how much money you can make taking mini sessions.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:30 pm to
Yes, in post processing.

Particularly photoshop. Using light room to finish out RAW images is one thing, but composites are literally fake images.
Posted by TigerRealtor
Member since Sep 2013
253 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:32 pm to
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I took family photos a few days ago and I almost felt ripped off, we paid a lot of money and all they did is just take a million photos super fast and then sorted through to pull out the good ones. Basically the camera does all the work now


I used to think this too until my wife and I started dating 6 or 7 years ago. When she told me how much she charged for pictures I just about laughed in her face. Then I saw all of the work on the back end. She’s pulled many all nighters editing photos for clients. Not to mention the cost of her gear. She probably has 15-20k in gear that she uses regularly. I think it’s fair to say for every hour of shooting there’s generally another 2-3 hours of culling and editing on the backend.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:33 pm to
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Basically the camera does all the work now


The camera just captures raw data. Good photographers are shooting in RAW and developing it, the camera isn't doing that much.

If you notice, cheaper cameras have more menu features than quality cameras, because good photogs don't need all those menu choices.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:43 pm to
I dont know..

I kinda enjoyed those old Polaroids in beaver hunt
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:44 pm to
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Has technology today made great photography less impressive?


Damn right it has....anyone with a DSLR that can mash a button and can do the basis in Photoshop is a damn photographer now that thinks they can charge 200 bucks for a 30 min session.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70676 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:51 pm to
It's like moviemaking. The tools to produce quality images are now available to the commonperson, which has produced a glut of quality images. However, it still takes a master craftsperson or artist to plan, direct, and capture memorable human interactions and images.

(Not to mention, lighting, postproduction, etc. can still get as technical as one can develop a mind for.)
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:51 pm to
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There was a Twitter post of an awesome photo someone captured of a runner in the 1980’s
Grete Waitz’s marathon pooping session?
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 5:19 pm to
I’ve found that two simple things that will make any amateur photographer go from bad to above average, good or really good.

Rule of thirds- its so simple and makes any photo instantly more interesting. Almost all cameras, whether it be DSLR, point and shoots or phone cameras, have the ability to turn the nine box grid on to help you with composition.

Lighting-
Outdoors- people wanting to take outdoor shots of landscapes, wildlife, portraits, etc, find your “magic hour” and/or shoot from shade with the sun at your back

Indoors- Stop using the flash! Instead, try using longer exposures and/or off-camera light sources.
Posted by JudgeRoyBean
West of the Pecos
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 5:43 pm to
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I can’t imagine using an old film camera and taking shots trying to figure out if I had the right iso setting or trying to figure out if it was under or over exposed. Pretty nice to be able to review the shots on the camera itself and make adjustments.


I still use a film SLR for the above reason. I enjoy the challenge. Yes, I have a couple of DSLR's and the majority of my photo's come from them, but I always bring my film camera on shoots too.
Posted by JudgeRoyBean
West of the Pecos
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 5:56 pm to
Camera Equipment Stolen

This is from San Francisco in early February.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 6:28 pm to
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No amount of post production is turning a mediocre picture into a great picture.


One of my kids is a graduate of a graphic arts college. They start out using actual film for both still photography, and movies. The idea is to teach them to get the images they want when they take them, and not be dependent on post processing to fix problems.
Posted by clarke
Member since Oct 2019
84 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 8:40 pm to
In my experience, the best photographers are the ones who aren't snapping away hundreds of frames. A good photographer considers their composition and lighting thoroughly before they even press the shutter, and as such don't take nearly as many frames, but the shots they do get will always be better. Composition is a learned thing that comes only through practice and experience, and exists completely independent of how expensive and professional your gear is. A camera is nothing more than a tool.

Just because someone buys really nice tools, does that make them competent enough to fix your car? Or does having a really nice kitchen make someone a great cook? No, and the same goes for photography.
Posted by PhantomMenace
Member since Oct 2017
1946 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 8:44 pm to
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There was a Twitter post of an awesome photo someone captured of a runner in the 1980’s and it got me thinking. It’s so much easier to take great photos today because
A. Cameras are everywhere thanks to cell phones
B. Camera technology is so advanced that the expensive cameras can capture hundreds of photos a second in super high resolution.


SO WRONG. You must be trolling, OP. The mere fact that cell phones are everywhere seems only to have lead to the proliferation of billions of bad photographs. Presuming that in the highly unlikely case that we could agree on what constitutes a "great" photography, while cell phone photos now can have excellent resolution, the photographer is still taking them through a very small lens, which limits what can be achieved. Taking hundreds of photos per second (call it video) would simply produce lots of mediocre photos very quickly.

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All a sports or nature photographer today really has to do is just find the action and then click a button, sort through the thousands of photos later to find a few epic ones.
Sure, OP. Come back when you have some great sharp BIFs (birds in flight) and show us. I once went to shoot with a professional sports photographer and the lens on his camera cost three times more than my car.

I would agree that technology has made it more likely that the average user's photos are better than with older technology, on the average. In the same way, audio technology allows people to produce better quality audio in their living room now than was possible in a studio years ago, presuming one knows how to use it.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10351 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:34 pm to
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In my experience, the best photographers are the ones who aren't snapping away hundreds of frames. A good photographer considers their composition and lighting thoroughly before they even press the shutter,


Natural lighting is the key. I don’t have the frames before this shot was taken but the shots right before this the eyes were in shadow so they did not show and the colors in the heads of the ducks were basically just black. But when the light hit just right the colors came out. Not perfectly focused but the colors show well.

Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:48 pm to
Its tough to beat a Canon Rebel T7.
Posted by Telecaster
Memphis
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:00 pm to
Back in the day when 36 frames was the limit on a roll of 35mm film, you had to take your time for each shot so as to not waste money. Developing and printing was fairly expensive.

With digital SLR's, you can fire off 20 or more still frames per second on some top cameras. Otherwise known as the "spray and pray" technique. Then post process to pull the most out of a shot. I love digital photography and spray and pray a bunch.

As others have said, lighting and composition still matters. There are many impressive modern photographs being taken today.

I mainly shoot with a crop camera - a Nikon D7200. I also have a full frame Nikon D600. Both are more camera than I'll ever need.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10351 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:15 pm to
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Otherwise known as the "spray and pray" technique. Then post process to pull the most out of a shot. I love digital photography and spray and pray a bunch.


No doubt.

This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 10:17 pm
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