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re: Has anyone lived in a country with universal healthcare?

Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:34 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:34 am to
Not sure, but weve had quite a few Canadians being sent down here for heath care from Whitehorse Mainly pregnant women

The obstetrician there must have went on vacation
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
125882 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:34 am to
Why are people from Canada coming across the border for medical procedures?
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3242 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:34 am to
It's weird how the UK got universal healthcare. You'd think it was very recently that they implemented it, but it was right after World War 2 ended when they did. They've been a welfare state since 1948.
This post was edited on 7/12/23 at 11:35 am
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13132 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:35 am to
The biggest downside is that the insurance companies lose a LOT of customers.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
30918 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:35 am to
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Canada


Govt panels that suggest assisted suicide sounds lovely
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:35 am to
Universal healthcare is great if you have a small, highly educated population that doesn't take advantage of the system. I don't think that exists except in some norwegian countries maybe.


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Govt panels that suggest assisted suicide sounds lovely


I'm changing my specialty to Thanatology. No risk of getting murdered by your patient because they come to you to die first
This post was edited on 7/12/23 at 11:39 am
Posted by GeauxGoose
Nonya
Member since Dec 2006
2620 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:37 am to
I met a couple from Canada while on vacation a couple years ago and the husband was telling me that they take 50% of whatever you make. Nice guy but he was bitching about them taking 50% but he also thought that everyone should have universal healthcare. He also told me it's not uncommon for people to come to the states to get treatment for cancer because they may die in Canada while waiting to see someone for treatment. If he would just listen to himself talk he might change his bottle universal healthcare.

Edit: I just want to add it looks like we have one liberal shite stain going through the thread and giving everybody a down vote.
This post was edited on 7/12/23 at 11:50 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23184 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:39 am to
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Everything the government gets involved in goes to shite


My first GF in NYC was Canadian and that was back shortly after their health system was "socialized." Their government took over a free market system flush with state of the art equipment and staffing. It only took a decade before rationing became cost control and maintaining a full suite of state of the art equipment and staffing was a thing of the past.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
62982 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:40 am to
The government will control completely what you're allowed to have treated.


Oh you don't want to take the vaccine? Healthcare "right" suspended.


You had a post the government didn't like on social media? Healthcare "right" suspended.


You voted for the people we don't like and you need an important surgery? Healthcare "right" suspended.


Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12651 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:41 am to
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Also if you look at the rankings the US is nowhere close to the top like I would have thought.


What, exactly, does this mean?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75694 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:42 am to
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I have not, however I do know what what gross to net take home pay percentages look like for my Canadian reports and colleagues and you would be shocked at these numbers.


What do American paychecks look like after insurance premiums?

(Which is Ogump's fault but it would be the apples to apples comparison.)
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13132 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:43 am to
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It's great in theory and then the government gets to decide what you can and can't have and then you are fricked


It seems like you are just moving who gets to decide what is covered from the insurance company to the government.
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5103 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:43 am to
Nothing in this world is free.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79732 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:43 am to
Most of them will lie to you about this.


No country has obesity like the US, so that has nothing to do with our actual medical care just a sick nation. Imo its impossible to really judge. One could say our system is amazing considering how obese we are.

Now lets get to the bullshite. Women still choose private care for pregnancy in these countries. you think any wealthy woman is going to go have a baby at a public hospital? frick no, you never have the same doctor.

So these countries operate on public and private care. not everything is covered and sometimes going private is just better.

Wait times are greater in all of these countries. The Us still reigns supreme in this.

We have public care in this country, the hospitals generally suck and just look at the va which is run by the governement.

The US government is the single largest health insurance provider in this country.


And the left likes to throw around the word free. nothing is free unless you want to make doctors and nurses slaves and not pay them for their labor.


This post was edited on 7/12/23 at 11:45 am
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
69249 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:44 am to
The difference being that the insured has the option to shop for other providers in a privatized industry.

With universal Healthcare if you don't like what you have, you have to leave the country to get something else.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
10061 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:45 am to
My Dad had a heart attack in Prague. He was in life support for a month at their hospital. Insurance was charged $11k. They said if he had it in the US it would have been over a million. (He was on vacation.)

They also saved his life with a machine called the Lucas Machine that is outlawed in the USA. Without it, he would have likely died.

The healthcare was outstanding there.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12651 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:46 am to
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They've been a welfare state since 1948.


We’re a welfare state too. Don’t deny it.

Have been since that piece of dog shite FDR was in office.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
12858 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:46 am to
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long waiting times to see a doctor?

Yes
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Is the care still good?

No

Anybody who can afford to in Britain buys supplemental health insurance, because the government provided coverage is so crappy. The wait times in particular can be atrocious.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79732 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:48 am to
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My Dad had a heart attack in Prague. He was in life support for a month at their hospital. Insurance was charged $11k. They said if he had it in the US it would have been over a million. (He was on vacation.)

They also saved his life with a machine called the Lucas Machine that is outlawed in the USA. Without it, he would have likely died.

The healthcare was outstanding there.


And Lousiana has way more people and way more diversity than the city of prague. And we are just one state.

So lets kill hundreds of millions of people around the country leave a couple of million white people and you can have what the czech have.

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The majority of the 10.5 million inhabitants of the Czech Republic are ethnically and linguistically Czech (95%)


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According to the Czech Statistical Office as of 31 December 2020 there were 632,570 legal foreign residents in the Czech Republic (5.1% of the total population).


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Residents from Ukraine are the largest group


Lol so when they get immigrants its people like them.
This post was edited on 7/12/23 at 11:56 am
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
10061 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:49 am to
The same reason people in the US sometimes go to Mexico for surgery.
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