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re: Harvey ***Catastrophic Flooding Event***

Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:57 am to
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
38205 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:57 am to
I get that you have a business to run and I get that you don't want to go under. You want to eat like the rest of us. I don't recall how much you said you increased your prices...but I hope in good conscience that you can't condone those who charge $15 per gallon in a time of crisis.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63641 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:57 am to
Is that real? Holy shite
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47469 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:59 am to
quote:

When your money is on the line then you can tell businesses how to price items


I wasn't telling you what to do, or suggesting what you should do. I merely pointed out what the AG of TX had just said on Fox news.

quote:

I read these threads to get some info


And you got it. The AG said gouging is against the law and he will be going after those that gouge during the storm. He did not give a legal definition of gouging.

quote:

but when you guys give me the bat signal to come in and put your in your place, I dont mind making an appearance and giving an econ 101 lesson.


What are the percentages the law allows to raise the price during a catastrophic event?
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173571 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:59 am to
Take a hike, junior
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37016 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:59 am to
quote:

Any rout West out of the city from Sugarland area.


I have a friend that is about in that area, said they have a mandatory evac. They are going to make plans tomorrow. They haven't flooded. I'll see what they do tomorrow and let you know.
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23705 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:01 am to
Yea, i could see how it would take a backseat in the news though. Bizarre AF. I can't live in a world without Franks or El Big Bad's blueberry, jalapeno, hibiscus margarita
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63641 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:03 am to
Agreed on Frank's and El Big Bad. I still feel like it would have been reported but who knows. fricking crazy if true and makes me kind of nervous.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:04 am to
quote:

I get that you have a business to run and I get that you don't want to go under. You want to eat like the rest of us. I don't recall how much you said you increased your prices...but I hope in good conscience that you can't condone those who charge $15 per gallon in a time of crisis.


Of course I dont agree with it, thats absolutely horrible but all Im saying is there is no such thing as price gouging in this business. On a normal basis you can open up gasbuddy and see for yourself there is a $1+ variance on fuel prices between bad areas where stores literally sell fuel at a loss bc they know low income people buy groceries inside to stores in the galleria area, like the one i mentioned on san felipe and 610 where they're $1 more than anyone else bc nobody buys snacks there in developed parts of the city. That is legal all year round and nobody complains, there isn't a handbook from the government that says what you're allowed to charge and not charge. Obviously $15/gallon is ridiculous but nobody forced anybody to go fill up there, the rental car companies charge $8.15/gallon if you dont fill your tank, but nobody forces you to use their gas. All I was saying was people who dont own businesses, they cant rationalize the motives of business owners. Is it right? No its not but in a world where feeding your family is the most important thing, if a small citgo gas station owner loads up on cases of water while you take a laid back approach and then suddenly you need what he's selling, who is anyone to say what that is worth? That's all im saying.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43310 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:10 am to
00Z Euro takes Harvey to LA/Tx border
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:12 am to
More east than 12z.

Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:15 am to
quote:

They can go after those charging $15/gallon but even then, they wont win anything,


I disagree. Lots of people have been prosecuted for price gouging.


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I read these threads to get some info, but when you guys give me the bat signal to come in and put your in your place, I dont mind making an appearance and giving an econ 101 lesson.


You sound like a piece of shite.
Posted by haramba3
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
856 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:17 am to
Man that 00Z model takes Harvey pretty far out into the gulf before turning up the state border
Posted by TigerFox
Member since Jun 2013
318 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:17 am to
Any news on how the interstates going east are doing? Looking to get from Dallas to Lafayette
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 11:54 pm
Posted by SCUBABlake
RIP WT6
Member since Jan 2008
40338 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:20 am to
Use this. It's pretty up to the minute. I recommend taking off the construction option for simplicity.

Drive Texas
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:22 am to
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I disagree. Lots of people have been prosecuted for price gouging.


I'd love to see some examples. I know just in the stores I own, all same brand, there is a .60 variance in price based on location. Why is that not price gouging on a normal basis? If a business owner prepares by loading up on water and you're taking your sweet time and then you need what he's selling bc you weren't prepared, why can't he charge what he wants? Nothing was preventing you from being proactive and going to the store to buy water early on like he did. If you wait till the last minute I feel like the laws of supply and demand should kick in and complaining is a big LOL.

Anyways I dont really care, not debating it anymore, Im all sold out and probably not going to jail and probably not paying a fine so all the ranting from the rantards was for nothing. Back to the important stuff kids.....
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1304 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:24 am to
quote:

I have a friend that is about in that area, said they have a mandatory evac. They are going to make plans tomorrow. They haven't flooded. I'll see what they do tomorrow and let you know.


I'm in Pecan Grove and they issued a voluntary evacuation. I just moved almost everything from the first floor to the second. Plan on trying to leave at first light to get away from this river.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
41317 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:25 am to
"If anyone sees two knuckleheads driving east in a blue Chevrolet truck, shoot their arse. They stole my truck and all my boat motor gas"

Has to be Greenspoint.

Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:36 am to
quote:

Anyways I dont really care, not debating it anymore, Im all sold out and probably not going to jail and probably not paying a fine so all the ranting from the rantards was for nothing. Back to the important stuff kids.....


Bye, you made this easy.
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 1:42 am
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:52 am to
LINK

They're estimating water will stay in these homes 2-3 months.

quote:

GALVESTON, Texas–The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Galveston District is starting water releases immediately from Addicks and Barker dams because water levels in the reservoirs have increased dramatically in the last few hours.

“Residents adjacent to the reservoirs need to be vigilant because the water in the reservoirs is rising rapidly,” said Col. Lars Zetterstrom, Galveston District commander. “Both reservoirs are rising more than half a foot per hour.”

According to Corps models, at this rate the first home in Addicks Reservoir will be impacted in 2 to 4 hours and the first home in Barker Reservoir will be impacted later this morning.

The Corps will start releasing around 800 cubic feet per second from each reservoir for a total of 1,600 c.f.s. Within the next 6 to 10 hours we will be releasing 4,000 c.f.s. from both reservoirs, for a combined total of 8,000 c.f.s.

“If we don’t begin releasing now, the volume of uncontrolled water around the dams will be higher and have a greater impact on the surrounding communities,” said Zetterstrom. “We are coordinating floodwater releases from Addicks and Barker with the Harris County Flood Control District so they can make informed decisions for the communities they support.”

Zetterstrom noted that the water in the reservoirs will flow into the Buffalo Bayou whether it goes through the gates or around the end of the dams.

“It’s going to be better to release the water through the gates directly into Buffalo Bayou as opposed to letting it go around the end and through additional neighborhoods and ultimately into the bayou,” Zetterstrom said.

The Corps is confident that the structures continue to perform as they were designed to do.

“This flood event will exceed the 2016 tax day flood elevations,” Zetterstrom said. “During the 2016 tax day flood Addicks and Barker Dams reduced Buffalo Bayou’s peak discharge from 132,853 c.f.s. to 7,160 c.f.s.”
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11403 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:53 am to
There was just a call about a guy stuck in his house with his mother who died this morning and he cant get the body out.
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