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re: Harvey ***Catastrophic Flooding Event***

Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Joplin, MO
Member since Nov 2011
41637 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

When would that be entering the gulf?



Going by current models the 24th/25th.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137036 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:30 pm to
If it hit LA, how long would it take from the time it entered the gulf?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Joplin, MO
Member since Nov 2011
41637 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

If it hit LA, how long would it take from the time it entered the gulf?



Going by averages, a few days.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137036 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:33 pm to
shite.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:33 pm to
so like hurricane katrina type date. great.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Joplin, MO
Member since Nov 2011
41637 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:34 pm to
If it even survives the trek into the Caribbean. GFS and Euro, the two major models really aren't on board. Euro keeps it strong north of the islands and kills it before Florida. GFS is even weaker. Still, it's super early, and this far out those two models aren't great for intensity (especially this year, they're shite). The hurricane models are showing a wayy stronger system coming out of 92L... so I guess we'll see.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20619 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:36 pm to
quote:


More interested in 92L


92L has many road blocks ahead of it. 91L will have to be watched for a late hook north, a Texas landfall wouldn't be out of the question.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

92L has many road blocks ahead of it



This I agree with....



quote:

. 91L will have to be watched for a late hook north, a Texas landfall wouldn't be out of the question.



Only if A front comes DEEP SOUTH and picks it up... Looks like high pressure to me the next 10 days will keep it on the present track....
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Joplin, MO
Member since Nov 2011
41637 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 5:00 pm to
Interesting fact:

If 92L & future 93L become named storms before the 22nd we would have more named storms than 2005 at this point.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20619 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:03 pm to
Slow northward drift on the 00z Harvey tracks

This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 6:30 am
Posted by 633tiger
Member since Jun 2007
1230 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

Rds dc


You've been hinting (even in the other thread) you weren't real confident in the track of Harvey. You mentioned a TX landfall more than once.

Is there something your not telling us that makes you think that?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28473 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:18 pm to
rds wants that rain for Texas. Free brewing water.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Joplin, MO
Member since Nov 2011
41637 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:19 pm to
And southward move for 92L



Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
8990 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:28 pm to
Hurricane party
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8445 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:39 pm to
Praying the cenm is right.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20619 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

I'm watching 92L more closely.


18z GEFS all of sudden wakes up

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20619 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:55 pm to
Double Post
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 10:11 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20619 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:10 pm to
One of the reasons the models have been struggling so bad here lately is because of the complex upper level environment across the Atlantic. In the image below, there is a potential vorticity streamer stretching from the Islands all the way across the Atlantic.



As Gert makes the turn north, it pumps out a bunch of -PV and the PV streamer fractures into a series of upper level lows or +PV anomalies



This increases shear and drives dry air down into the tropics. Now these are spinning off into the Atlantic and the models don't handle them well



Both the GFS and Euro have been snuffing out 92L with one of these +PV anomalies (just north of the Islands)



The models struggle with these upper level features and their movement can make or break a tropical system. This will go a long ways to determining if 92L can do anything down the road.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102463 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:16 pm to
Do not want
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
42849 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:54 am to
new euro is interesting. it has the system in the central gulf. still lots of time to watch and not panic right now.
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