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Harrisburg police officer wrongly accuses veteran, 75, of 'stolen valor'

Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:22 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:22 pm
Haha...about time one of these stolen valor attention whores had it go the other way for them.

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An Army soldier attending Artsfest on Memorial Day thought something was fishy with the Marine uniform worn by 75-year-old Robert Ford, who was strolling along Front Street.

Ford's hat bore some wrinkles, according to the soldier's assessment, and his belt buckle looked too ornate for his rank.

The soldier enlisted the help of a Harrisburg police officer working at the event, who was a Marine, and together, they accused Ford of being a fraud.

"He's not a real Marine!" the officer shouted to the crowd gathered for the PennLive/Patriot-News Artsfest of Greater Harrisburg. "Stolen valor!"

"I was humiliated," said Ford, of Marysville.

The only problem is Ford did serve in the Marines from 1958 to 1964. He earned the rank of lance corporal.

"He's as legit as you can get," said Doug Sterner, a Vietnam veteran and archivist from Pueblo, Colo., who is nationally recognized for detecting military fraud. Sterner confirmed Ford's military service this week through Headquarters Marine Corps.

The incident in Harrisburg, Sterner said, represents a troubling trend across the country of veterans becoming vigilantes.


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"The veteran community, frustrated and upset, is saying, 'OK. We'll do it ourselves,' " Sterner said. "But what it's leading to is a bunch of hot heads. ... There's a lot of bullying going on in the community now. It's almost like hunting game, going out looking for phonies."




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Posted by arseinclarse
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:22 pm to


Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:23 pm to
Man this story has it all for the OT:

Stolen valor accusations plus a cop being a jackass
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112689 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

"The veteran community, frustrated and upset, is saying, 'OK. We'll do it ourselves,' " Sterner said. "But what it's leading to is a bunch of hot heads. ... There's a lot of bullying going on in the community now. It's almost like hunting game, going out looking for phonies."
ding ding ding
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:23 pm to
frick stolen valor clowns. They are worse than actually stealing valor.
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
7506 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

about time one of these stolen valor attention whores had it go the other way for them.


Bingo
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:25 pm to
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"He's not a real Marine!" the officer shouted to the crowd gathered for the PennLive/Patriot-News Artsfest of Greater Harrisburg. "Stolen valor!"


Are cops literally getting worse by the hour ta this point?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139245 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:25 pm to
The people calling out "stolen valor" are usually bigger douches than the ones faking service.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:26 pm to
i dont really understand why service men care about stolen valor. they did their time, no one can take that from them.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38400 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:27 pm to
The cop should have shot him for not complying
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184770 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Are cops literally getting worse by the hour ta this point?




This guy seems like a real winner

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The incident

Ford has a tradition on Memorial Day. He dons his dress blue uniform, visits the cemetery, plays "Taps" on his bugle in a wreath-laying ceremony along the Susquehanna River, then attends Artsfest, where he looks for presents for his granddaughter.

But this year, as he was perusing the artware, a uniformed officer approached along with a man in civilian clothes.

The officer asked for Ford's unit and his military occupation specialty.

Ford answered and noted he specialized in machine guns, rockets and flame-throwers.

"I have to investigate for 'stolen valor,' " the officer said, which Ford said he found insulting.

Still, Ford let it pass and recommended the officer attend the wreath-laying ceremony next year. The officer simply walked away.

Ford returned to shopping, but 10 minutes later was again confronted by the officer in front of The Patriot-News booth.

"Where did you go to boot camp?" the officer said.

Ford said he couldn't figure out why the officer was questioning his service. Ford hadn't claimed any war heroics and his uniform bore no combat medals.

"What am I trying to do?" Ford said. "Impersonate a lance corporal who never served in combat?"

Things quickly escalated.

"What is your problem?" Ford asked.

The officer reiterated his demand.

Fed up, Ford told the officer to leave him alone in terms that contained an expletive.

That's when the officer started shouting, Ford said.

"You don't know where you went to boot camp," the officer said, according to Ford. "You aren't a Marine."

Ford said the soldier joined in, shouting: "Stolen Valor! This man is a fake!"
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
24335 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

Ford's hat bore some wrinkles, according to the soldier's assessment, and his belt buckle looked too ornate for his rank.


The 75 year old veteran should have gotten a calf tattoo. Then there would be no question.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

An Army soldier attending Artsfest on Memorial Day thought


I found the problem, and I want to see that fat fricks pt card with accurate height and weight information.

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:31 pm to
It seems like the cop was bored. I mean you'd think he would have more productive things to do.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

Fed up, Ford told the officer to leave him alone in terms that contained an expletive.

That's when the officer started shouting, Ford said.

"You don't know where you went to boot camp," the officer said, according to Ford. "You aren't a Marine."



another cop, protecting and serving.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56928 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:33 pm to
All cops and people in military are dumbasses who couldn't get into college
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

i dont really understand why service men care about stolen valor. they did their time, no one can take that from them.


Probably has to do with the attention that veterans do receive in this country for their service. They don't like 'fakes' stealing their thunder.

They also get more attention by calling out fakes.

It's all about attention.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38400 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:34 pm to
That fat frick needs to be working security at a mall, not questioning marines on their service
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