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re: Happy back to the office day for State workers!

Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:52 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:52 am to
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No, I’m questioning why they were doing unpaid work to begin with. If my hours are 9-5, im working 9-5 whether its at home or in an office.


Some roles can have issues come up outside standard hours. While not required to handle those issues immediately, some works may choose to do so for a variety of reasons. Taking away WFH days may make those workers reconsider their choice. It's not complicated to figure out.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:53 am to
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They just need to reevaluate the whole thing and come up with a universal solution for WFH.


unless a company/government agency does not have offices for workers to come to you won't convince me of the savings of WFH. I know in the private sector some allowances are made for people working from home for utilities and internet etc...why do you think that wouldn't become the case for state workers WFH? that would negate the savings some of you are touting.

As someone who works in an office I would gladly take a cut in pay to do my job from home that would be equivalent to what i spend going in to work and time commuting etc.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3201 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:53 am to
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Everyone should have a micromanager breathing down their neck at least once so they realize it sucks, quit, and start their own business.


FTFY

Too many cameras will introduce a lot of "why were you doing this inconsequential thing" and make for an anxious, shitty work environment.

Work on your hiring/firing process instead so you don't have to police everyone

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:54 am to
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As someone who works in an office I would gladly take a cut in pay to do my job from home that would be equivalent to what i spend going in to work and time commuting etc.


That's stupid Why change anything if your net is equal?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:54 am to
Good
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:55 am to
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I don't understand why y'all are so worried about where or how other people make their living.

I'd much rather pay a state worker to work from home and stop paying for office space than force them to the office to pay for both them and the office space.


Always the jealous MFers forced to work in an office hating on people that WFH. I personally dgaf where people work and even if in an office I’d rather less people be there anyway.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5761 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:55 am to
Sounds like they’re own fault then

Refusing to do the unpaid work that you’ve been doing all because you have to get in a car and go to an office sounds like a hissy fit. Should’ve never set that precedence.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:56 am to
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Sounds like they’re own fault then

Refusing to do the unpaid work that you’ve been doing all because you have to get in a car and go to an office sounds like a hissy fit. Should’ve never set that precedence.


You don't sound like you have a very important job.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:57 am to
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I love comments like these posted smack dab in the middle of the work day. I'm sure you're on PTO right now though


if i was at home i would just run errands, watch tv, post on TD or mow the grass while "WFH" but when I am caught up at work I post on TD...great point box you got me
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:57 am to
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if i was at home i would just run errands, watch tv, post on TD or mow the grass while "WFH" but when I am caught up at work I post on TD...great point box you got me


You realize you're arguing against yourself here, right?
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:58 am to
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The amount of incessant bitching from people on social media has been nauseating.


Not for me, but I'm an adult who doesn't spend every waking hour on twitter.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5761 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:01 am to
I’m not unimportant but there’s a thing called boundaries, work life/balance, etc.

Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:01 am to
The only reason there's been such a hardline push for return to the office is because of commercial real estate.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:03 am to
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No, I’m questioning why they were doing unpaid work to begin with. If my hours are 9-5, im working 9-5 whether its at home or in an office.


Salaried people never had required office hours, simply be available, come in if and when required, and treat the place like a family you care about. Now it’s “have your arse in a seat, behind this locked door, for no reason, frick how it’s been forever without issue”.


My work is measured in metrics such as uptime, time to return service, meeting project deadlines etc. These will all get worse as the person needed to fix something they could’ve done at 7am, will now be stuck in their car at that time.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35754 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:04 am to
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No, I’m questioning why they were doing unpaid work to begin with


Your employer gave you a concession of flexibility, which swings both ways. If I have nothing to do at 1:30, I’ll go do my laundry, but if someone needs something at 6, I don’t mind taking 20 minutes to do it.

Now you want my arse in a seat where I have to sit there with my dick in my hand at 1:30 in a cube, that’s fine, but I’m not doing shite at 6 anymore
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:05 am to
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Salaried people never had required office hours, simply be available, come in if and when required, and treat the place like a family you care about. Now it’s “have your arse in a seat, behind this locked door, for no reason, frick how it’s been forever without issue”.


I feel bad for people who were WFH pre-COVID successfully and are now being micromanaged into oblivion because some higher-up is upset that he can't continue to justify his job unless he's a micromanaging a-hole.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 10:05 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:05 am to
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I’m not unimportant but there’s a thing called boundaries, work life/balance, etc.



So you don't deal with outside departments, companies, anything? Because there is no such thing as standard working hours that are universal. Your 8 hour day could miss several hours of my 8 hour day depending on several factors.

A good example of this was a time a PM for an outside company told me he didn't see an email sent at 4:12pm because he was out of the office at 4. In my industry, that is a hilariously bad explanation. But based on your logic, this should be ok, right? This guy was private sector btw

ETA And you will find few bigger supporters of work/life balance than me.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 10:07 am
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
16972 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:06 am to
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In our main office, while additional office space is actively being sought (including rental of private buildings), some people are having to double-up in cubicles. That’s not a positive work environment IMO. Plus that’s an added cost for an already strapped state budget.


It sounds like some cuts are in order.
Posted by LSUbub12
South Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
407 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:06 am to
I work under the Division.
All offices under the Division have either been in the office for 3 or 4 days. These offices haven’t been purely remote since the early days of COVID.
Most offices under elected officials have been back every day or at most given one day remote work.
The notion that state workers have been at home everyday for 5 years is false.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35754 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:07 am to
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I know in the private sector some allowances are made for people working from home for utilities and internet etc.


You think paying someone $79 a month for an internet reimbursement is the same cost as having office space for them

My last firm had about 50% capacity of office space for headcount, requiring asses in seats, and thus space for all those asses, would cost millions
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