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re: Had the Cuban Missile Crisis Escalated…
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:01 pm to The Boat
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:01 pm to The Boat
In 1963 the only way to hit every city was for the Soviets to engage in a long term air bombing campaign, which they probably could not have sustained.
It would be years later before both sides geared up with huge numbers of ICBMs. Then, they had enough for even uninteresting targets...
It would be years later before both sides geared up with huge numbers of ICBMs. Then, they had enough for even uninteresting targets...
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:02 pm to Tempratt
Radioactive nuclear terror pig jambalaya would be the number one meal in Louisiana.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:16 pm to Dinosaur Vacuum
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For one thing, Baton Rouge wouldn't be here. The Exxon refinery made it a primary nuclear target during the Cold War and the proximity of the missiles in Cuba would have guaranteed it was one of the first cities wiped out if things had gotten hot.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:46 pm to farad
The nuclear bomb is such a weird thing in terms of world history. Because of it's existence, there likely will never be a full-on war ever again because all the world powers know that would be the end of everything. But also because of it's existence, no country trusts any other major country because everyone is basically holding a gun to each other's head.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:47 pm to Tempratt
We would be about 87% finished.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:48 pm to Tempratt
China would have become a superpower, with vast amounts of manufacturing, and endless money.
Oh, wait...
Oh, wait...
Posted on 7/3/21 at 6:08 pm to Tempratt
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Illustrating its enormous numerical nuclear superiority, the U.S. nuclear stockpile in 1962 included more than 25,500 warheads (mostly for battlefield weapons). The Soviet Union had about 3,350.
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Vasili Alexandrovich Arkhipov was a Soviet Navy officer credited with preventing a Soviet nuclear strike during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Such an attack likely would have caused a major global thermonuclear response.
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As flotilla commander and second-in-command of the diesel powered submarine B-59, Arkhipov refused to authorize the captain's use of nuclear torpedoes against the United States Navy, a decision requiring the agreement of all three senior officers aboard.
In 2002, Thomas Blanton, who was then director of the US National Security Archive, said that Arkhipov "saved the world"
I’ve always wondered if Arkhipov knew that if he gave the order to nuke the American flotilla, the response would be the end of the USSR, quite literally. He was one of three Russian naval officers who had to agree to launch the nuclear torpedoes. The other two had already agreed and were awaiting his decision. How breath-takingly close we were to total nuclear war. All humans owe a debt of gratitude to this wise man.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 6:46 pm to Ghost of Colby
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You’re assuming humanity would have survived?
Absolutely. The kids did drills in school every day to seek shelter under their desks.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 6:58 pm to Kentucker
Read about Stanislav Petrov. He saved the world from nuclear annihilation in 1983 after the Soviet early warning systems picked up a faulty nuclear strike. They were going to retaliate but he was the one who realized it was a false alarm
Posted on 7/3/21 at 6:59 pm to RummelTiger
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I don't think anyone would've been better off with two global powers lobbing nukes over the Atlantic, not to mention what would've happened between each of our ally countries
Like that’s the only possible scenario based on all the possibilities that could exist in this hypothetical situation.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 7:09 pm to Ghost of Colby
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You’re assuming humanity would have survived?
Artist rendering of the day after a 10T terrorist bomb detonates in Manhattan, for a quick comparison.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 7:59 pm to GreenRockTiger
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For one thing, Baton Rouge wouldn't be here. The Exxon refinery made it a primary nuclear target during the Cold War and the proximity of the missiles in Cuba would have guaranteed it was one of the first cities wiped out if things had gotten hot.
No need to laugh. It’s been well documented. Plus blocking access to the river.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 8:45 pm to Tempratt
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…to full blown nuclear war, how far along would we be (if any) today in rebuilding?
I mean, some of us might have slightly prettier rocks in our caves and the TRULY well-off might not even have cancer from strontium and cesium uptake.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 8:46 pm to RummelTiger
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I don't think anyone would've been better off with two global powers lobbing nukes over the Atlantic
Arctic.
Do you even globe, bro?
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:43 pm to The Boat
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Yes.. the ol "my city would have been wiped out in a nuclear war" trope. The same thing was said right after 9/11 in a morbid attempt to make people feel like their city is more important than it is.
Breaux Bridge and Pierre Part were at the top of the list. If the Soviets couldn’t wipeout everyone, Plan B was to drive crawfish prices so high they would never recover.
This post was edited on 7/3/21 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 7/3/21 at 11:18 pm to elprez00
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No need to laugh. It’s been well documented. Plus blocking access to the river.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 11:23 pm to Bigfishchoupique
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Pierre Part
Exactly - and some of these fools on here think Baton Rouge was on the list
Posted on 7/3/21 at 11:30 pm to Broski
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The nuclear bomb is such a weird thing in terms of world history. Because of it's existence, there likely will never be a full-on war ever again because all the world powers know that would be the end of everything. But also because of it's existence, no country trusts any other major country because everyone is basically holding a gun to each other's head.
When a cyber attack can bring your enemy to its knees, when a genetically engineered microorganism can take out half its population in a matter of weeks, when an autonomous drone can recognize and target individual members of its leadership--one can argue that nuclear weapons are or soon will be obsolete.
hypothetical: Country A takes down Country B's power grid for several months. No one is directly injured or killed, but tens or hundreds of thousands die from cold, hunger and lack of medical care. Country B does not have the ability to retaliate in kind, but it does have nuclear weapons. Is Country B justified in using them against Country A?
Posted on 7/3/21 at 11:33 pm to Broski
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that would be the end of everything
But would it?? If the bombs were strategically placed - yes, maybe
But if random cities are bombed then there will be plenty of people left.
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