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re: Guy blocking access to farmland: legal recourse?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:14 pm to deltaland
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:14 pm to deltaland
Look into right of easement. If you have other access but don’t want to spend the money you may be out of luck. But if there is no other access they can’t deny you access to your property.
Also as others stated the landowner may have to fight that battle. But assuming he will lose out on royalties or lease payments it may be easy to talk him into pursuing it.
Also as others stated the landowner may have to fight that battle. But assuming he will lose out on royalties or lease payments it may be easy to talk him into pursuing it.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 8:17 pm
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:14 pm to el Gaucho
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How many catfish plants is that
Bout tree fiddy
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:15 pm to deltaland
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It's his wife driving the issue and I offered to put white limerock down to cut down on dust (way cheaper than building a new road) and he said he would talk to her but ultimately he is going to do what she wants him to I believe
What a cuck.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:17 pm to deltaland
I’m not a lawyer, but I do know that you have no legal right to deny someone access to property. My FIL owns land and a dude in a trailer owns a couple of acres on the back side. He has to give the crackhead access
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:18 pm to deltaland
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I offered to put white limerock down to cut down on dust
Spray the road with calcium chloride. It will cut down on dust with quickness trade names include NoDust etc. email me at my u/n @ gmail and I can put you in contact with a company that makes and sells it. They’re here in the BR area but you could hotshot a few 50 gallon drums or come pick it up yourself.
Disclaimer: I don’t work for the company that makes this stuff but have used it to solve dust problems in the past.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:21 pm to Muice
You can also get calcium chloride from any drilling mud company.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:22 pm to deltaland
Gate vs. Tractor.
My money is on the tractor.
Tell that bitch, "You don't own this road. You put up a gate and I will destroy it. Your move bitch."
My money is on the tractor.
Tell that bitch, "You don't own this road. You put up a gate and I will destroy it. Your move bitch."
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:25 pm to deltaland
Lol, they aren't going to block access. Are you that big of a poon or why are you this worried? Someone with grandkids is really going to check your knuckles over farm land access? This seems absurd to me.
How fast are you really driving on your road that they have no legal access to?
Furthermore and most important, how many acres are we talking about? 10,000; 50; 500?
I mean I'm guessing it's like 150 and that's why they owner doesn't want to get involved. Because if it was something that mattered he would care.
So personally I'd kiss their arse through this crop, and then not plan on using the land next year unless the owner grows some balls and takes care of it himself.
How fast are you really driving on your road that they have no legal access to?
Furthermore and most important, how many acres are we talking about? 10,000; 50; 500?
I mean I'm guessing it's like 150 and that's why they owner doesn't want to get involved. Because if it was something that mattered he would care.
So personally I'd kiss their arse through this crop, and then not plan on using the land next year unless the owner grows some balls and takes care of it himself.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:25 pm to deltaland
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It's his wife driving the issue
Sounds like you need to go frick the wife. Then she will have a different perspective, provided you do it right.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:28 pm to deltaland
Get Gordon. Get it done.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:29 pm to GetCocky11
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don't see how this is complicated. If those homeowners don't own the road, then they can't build a gate on it that blocks access.
There is nothing to negotiate with them.
If they were concerned about dust, they should have approached the owner of the road and discussed it like adults instead of going to the extreme by threatening to block access.
But they blocked it and the owner doesn’t mind.
The problem is the guy is leasing land that does not include the road... the landowners being awful and letting them both fight over land that’s not theirs because he’s too scared to upset anyone and I’m the process is putting them both in bad situations.
OP needs to get in that lease and figure out his rights from there. Likely with a lawyer unless there’s an obviously spelled out solution. No one here can give him a ton based on what he shared.
There’s a good chance he needs to just keep massaging the situation - and ideally amend the lease in conjunction. “I’ll lay new stone, and put a fence to protect the kids but the road becomes part of my lease so we don’t find ourselves in this again next week.” Something that salvages the owners business interest with the neighbors but also gains control of the land.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:29 pm to deltaland
It sounds like the landowner would have to be the one to push the issue....and it doesn't sound like he is willing to do that. Not sure what your recourse would be at this point.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:32 pm to Spankum
It also sounds like the landowner needs to provide access. If I’m leasing I’m sure as hell not improving his property for free. It’s either coming out of his percentage or he’s paying for it upfront.
ETA. Who the hell moves onto a gravel road and doesn’t expect any dust.
ETA. Who the hell moves onto a gravel road and doesn’t expect any dust.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:32 pm to NoSaint
I'm also curious why someone cares about 'dust' and 'grandkids' getting hurt? Someone that works for the OP or OP must drive like a jackwagon or something, I mean drive 10 mph for a half mile past their house to appease them. It doesn't add up.
Yeah, I'm guessing the 100 acres of catfish ponds income is nothing for the landowner so he doesn't care.
Yeah, I'm guessing the 100 acres of catfish ponds income is nothing for the landowner so he doesn't care.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:33 pm to deltaland
Kill their cat and nail it to the front door with a note saying the kids are next. Leave a catfish on the welcome mat.
ETA: Do you know any Croatians that live near you?
ETA: Do you know any Croatians that live near you?
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:34 pm to baldona
Does the OP have recourse to sue the owner of said land for lost wages/ income if the owner doesn't fix the access? I'd assume so if his lease is decent? Not a great idea, but one avenue of last resort.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:34 pm to deltaland
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deltaland
Also, if I understand this correctly, the new homeowner’s driveway is connected to the road at issue?
If it is, make specific mention that you maintain that road at no expense to the land owner or homeowner. Tell him you’ll grade the driveway (free of charge) while your working on the road.
Make it a convenience to him.
I’d also suggest inviting the couple out on the property, show them around, explain the crop cycle, and what to expect.
A little friendliness can go a long way.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:35 pm to bhtigerfan
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Gate vs. Tractor.
My money is on the tractor.
Tell that bitch, "You don't own this road. You put up a gate and I will destroy it. Your move bitch."
Neighbor: hello business partner - your renter is causing problems and is out of control and I need you to fix this or maybe I take my business elsewhere
Depending on the lease terms, access to the property, and nature of their business deals... it could be dicey. I’d say make sure you know each persons pain points and motivations before coming in hot. That might end up being the answer. Or it might kill any chance of getting around the $20k expense.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:36 pm to NoSaint
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But they blocked it and the owner doesn’t mind.
Sounds like the landowner isn't living up to his terms of the lease then. I'd be surprised if an owner can lease land legally like that without providing access.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:38 pm to deltaland
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The owner of the road does business with the new home owner and doesn't want to ruin that business, so he said he isn't getting involved on either side.
You're effed. He's essentially on your neighbors side and will say so, if you take this to court.
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