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re: Grocery prices are out of control

Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:23 am to
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:23 am to
You used the argument of there being a “tooling issue” for the supply chain issue. Your article that you linked mentions nothing of the aforementioned, yet you tried to leverage it as though it held any kind of veracity. Again, what ERP platform would you suggest to mitigate the supply chain issue, and please be very specific, thanks.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7419 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:26 am to
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Your article that you linked mentions nothing of the aforementioned, yet you tried to leverage it as though it held any kind of veracity.


Really? Read the fricking article instead of skimming it. You might learn something.

"Yet the United States is “decades behind” foreign ports in getting carriers, terminals and shippers to provide each other access to commercial data for planning purposes, said Gene Seroka, executive director of the Port of Los Angeles. Concerns over data privacy, business secrets and security have resulted in a fragmented approach. Individual ports operate as separate fiefdoms rather than as part of a national system.

In the Dutch city of Rotterdam, Europe’s largest port, everyone involved in a cargo vessel’s arrival sees the same information on a common data-sharing platform. Called “PortXchange,” the software makes port calls “smarter and more efficient” than the use of separate systems or the telephone, according to the port’s website.

Seroka touts a tool called the Port Optimizer, which forecasts three weeks of incoming cargo. More information sharing — including over a longer time period — would allow carriers, terminals, truckers and dockworkers to better position equipment and people. But other than Los Angeles, New Orleans is the only U.S. port that is even testing the system.

“Information sharing and additional transparency is one of the few areas where indisputably we could get more capacity out of the current system,” said Dan Maffei, chairman of the Federal Maritime Commission.
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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:38 am to
I am extremely skeptical of that explanation.

America was doing just fine with shipping logistics before the last couple of months.

The more likely explanation is that America went INSANE with fiscal stimulus, way beyond even most european nations in cash payments to the citizens. Ports cannot handle the demand.

Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:38 am to
You’re not answering the question. What ERP IT system would you recommend to solve the supply chain problem?

Your article doesn’t state the cause of a software issue, but ok
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5684 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 5:41 am to
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Gates, Bezos, Zuckerberg, etc.) has us at gunpoint


WTF?
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8369 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 6:26 am to
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Mayor Pete says he'll have them offloaded as soon as his gay paternity leave is over


I wonder if his "wife" is experiencing Postpartum Depression. He might have to take off some additional time to help his "wife" deal with it?
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14439 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:15 am to
Same here . i do my normal grocery shopping on sundays buying the usual items. i look down at my receipt that is usually about 200 now it shows 250 instead.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15355 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:19 am to
And yet a year ago, even with COVID we weren’t seeing the same problem.

What changed? Let me see…..
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7419 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:21 am to
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And yet a year ago, even with COVID we weren’t seeing the same problem.


You serious, Clark? Are you implying demand was as high during many state shutdowns as it is now?
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56170 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:23 am to
People still had to eat no matter where they were.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:25 am to
No, not true. I was so scared for my life during Covid that I barely even ate anything. I'm sure most people were just like me. So now that we can eat again, demand is going up, so higher grocery prices.

It's simple Covid logic.

Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7419 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:27 am to

quote:

You’re not answering the question. What ERP IT system would you recommend to solve the supply chain problem?



Are you illiterate or just intentionally dense? Let me zoom in a bit more on the quote I already provided you:


"In the Dutch city of Rotterdam, Europe’s largest port, everyone involved in a cargo vessel’s arrival sees the same information on a common data-sharing platform. Called “PortXchange,” the software makes port calls “smarter and more efficient” than the use of separate systems or the telephone, according to the port’s website.

Seroka touts a tool called the Port Optimizer, which forecasts three weeks of incoming cargo. More information sharing — including over a longer time period — would allow carriers, terminals, truckers and dockworkers to better position equipment and people. But other than Los Angeles, New Orleans is the only U.S. port that is even testing the system.
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quote:

Your article doesn’t state the cause of a software issue, but ok


We're just now barely testing out software? What the frick you mean "issue"? You usually don't have "issues" until a software solution is implemented.

Unless you're referring to why it hasn't been implemented which, again, had you read even just the snippet I posted would've answered this for you...focusing in again:

"Yet the United States is “decades behind” foreign ports in getting carriers, terminals and shippers to provide each other access to commercial data for planning purposes, said Gene Seroka, executive director of the Port of Los Angeles. Concerns over data privacy, business secrets and security have resulted in a fragmented approach"

Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56170 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:28 am to
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I was so scared for my life during Covid that I barely even ate anything
Bruh. That’s fricking stupid insane to live life, that scared. My sympathies.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:33 am to
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The more likely explanation is that America went INSANE with fiscal stimulus, way beyond even most european nations in cash payments to the citizens. Ports cannot handle the demand.



I personally believe we’ve also hit the inflection point of wages not keeping up with inflation courtesy of all the fiscal stimulus to the point where it’s almost pointless to take a job that doesn’t pay a hell of a lot more than eight or ten dollars an hour. You’re going to be impoverished either way, why even bother? Just do the minimum to let the government help you survive. So you’ve got a never ending labor shortage as companies begin raising wages to fulfill the new market demand, which combines with and contributes to supply side issues to create an inflationary spiral because as cost of living goes up, you’ll just continue to revisit this problem in a positive feedback loop.

When wages go up, as we know that they are, that “transitory inflation” narrative looks silly. We are never going to see 2019 pricing again, people acting like we are just comparing against 2020 in a vacuum are being really dishonest. The September read of CPI should have been the nail in the coffin about those talking about “base effects” comparing to the deflation seen in 2020, but alas some here still think that’s all we are seeing.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 7:42 am
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
7008 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:36 am to
"LOL guys if we had just used better software this wouldn't have happened". Yet the whole port supply chain was working fine prior. So while software could help, it won't help now, and it won't fix the issues now. This issue screams of mismanagement via bad company policy or lack there-of. Your entire argument is moot, unless you're suggesting we just shut the ports down to get the magical software installed, working through 6 months of install issues and a year of personnel training. Where it's still managed under the same policies as before.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41860 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:40 am to
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How is trump racist

Someone please tell me


Absolutely NOTHING supporters of DJT can say that will make this narrative go away.

Half of America is literally brainwashed to D way of doing things.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15355 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:51 am to
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You serious, Clark? Are you implying demand was as high during many state shutdowns as it is now?
Well let’s see

Did people eat less a year ago? Kinda doubt it

Did it take less time to load, or unload a truck? Laws of physics appear not to have changed

Does demand decrease the ability to supply? Not the last time I checked

Which of course precludes that demand is the problem, which it isn’t.

Really not the sharpest knife in the drawer there sport. Feel free to trot out some other supposed expert to support what you wish to be true and prove it.

(Too subtle on the last part baws? Feels like I may have been)
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37454 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:54 am to
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this has been going on for quiet awhile, and you just know noticed.


By quite a while you mean a year?
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:57 am to
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Imagine being one of the pussies who voted for, and are ok with this because of mean tweets.



Imagine thinking this wouldnt have happened with a different president after we passed 7.5 trillion dollars of stimulus checks last year.

You thought the fed was printing all that money and was somehow gonna avoid inflation?

Our leadership is nothing but con artists
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37454 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:57 am to
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90% of posters on this site for the past year





Do you not understand the difference between that crazy woman literally screaming at the sky because trump defeated Hillary and conservative people voicing anger over governmental policies that directly and immediately impact our lives?

The fiscal, logistical, and military decisions made by this administration have all failed and failed horribly.
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