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re: Great paying jobs most in danger of vanishing due to tech/AI?

Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:11 pm to
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:11 pm to
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I know a pharmacist very well and another issue is that the profession is getting over saturated.


I know a few.
Posted by Ric Flair
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:19 pm to
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Robots can’t read a dr’s handwriting


Doctors send scripts electronically to the pharmacy. It’s been years since the last written script for most docs associated with a large healthcare network.

Pharmacist provide another layer of protection/check and balance for drug interactions, narcotic abuse, etc.

Posted by Old Character
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:40 pm to
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Blaming a robot when the count comes up 500 Percocets short just isn't as satisfying for management, though.


Wouldn’t happen as often with a robot. Robots don’t pill head
Posted by dupergreenie
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:41 pm to
Ok.... and they/you should know that the profession is getting over saturated. The one i know was lucky enough to get placed in a position. People who were graduating 2 years and after her were not as lucky. They were not getting placed in stores and were basically 'on call' to cover sick calls and vacation. They were not always getting hours.

Posted by alajones
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:43 pm to
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I wish people would stop using this phrase

LINK

They weren’t ready last November
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:51 pm to
Exactly what I thought when I stood in line.

Robots are going to make less mistakes than humans. Counting pils, even with multiple prescriptions, they’re gonna do it better.

Worried about drug interactions because of scrips from different doctors? Robots are gonna be way better and more attentive than humans. There’s no fatigue, no distractions. The margins for mistake go way down when you take human frailty out of the equation.
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:04 pm to
Pharmacists won't be replaced by robots...soon. Pharmacy techs will.

This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 8:06 pm
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:05 pm to
Robots already give alerts but aren't smart enough yet to know what's clinically relevant and what isn't.

By the time they are, half the medical field will be out of a job, too.
Posted by Tempratt
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:08 pm to
Pharmacy is stupid saturated right now but the field only has itself to blame. Attracted too many retards that wanted to go to school for something "easy" and get a six fig job at CVS.

Need to make residency mandatory for practice no matter where you end up and make the NAPLEX harder.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:13 pm to
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Worried about drug interactions because of scrips from different doctors? Robots are gonna be way better and more attentive than humans. There’s no fatigue, no distractions. The margins for mistake go way down when you take human frailty out of the equation.


There are already electronic/computerized safeguards against drug interactions. Pharmacists can override these. So if a patient with afib and a UTI is on Coumadin and prescribed bactrim, the alert will go up. Pharmacist can check with the doctor, who decreased Coumadin dose and ordered more frequent INR’s (labwork). Robots may refuse to fill the prescription.

Although the ultimate need for pharmacists may be to have a human to sue in case something bad happens, instead of a whole company/robot to blame (so they won’t have to change their formulas/algorithms).
Posted by dupergreenie
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:16 pm to
I agree. And honestly the industry could go to a form of AI. You would still need a pharmacist but not as many. Im actually shocked that it hasn't happened yet.
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:17 pm to
Bots ain't replacing Mr. Gower.

Posted by genro
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:25 pm to
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Need to make residency mandatory for practice no matter where you end up and make the NAPLEX harder.


That's why they went to Ph.D. in the first place.

The fact they have to keep artifically restricting the job market proves it's a ridiculously overpaid, unnecessary field.

I mean, the only real reason the doctor didn't just directly give you the meds is that that's inconvenient for him. Somehow this glorified pill clerk who has to answer to nurses gets 6 figures and gets to believe he's actually important because uh, he can check for contraindications and then ask the nurse if that's ok...
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:40 pm to
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What exactly do you think AI is?


The machines will write code for themselves and other machines.
Posted by NakaTrash
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:47 pm to
[quote] You can’t replace the human vagina [quote]
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 9:05 pm to
Engineering is moving overseas to an extent. A Houston engineering company I don't care for set up an engineering center in India and is now treating their senior engineers like crap in the hopes that they will quit (and it's working). I've also been on a project with an Italian firm and their engineers get payed poor wages compared to American companies; that is why they get the work. With the internet it's easy to work on projects all over the world and it's starting to have a toll on US companies with global wage competition.
Posted by Fat and Happy
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 9:14 pm to
A pharmacist has to verify multiple parts of the transaction and also can’t just hand out drugs at a whim.

There is much more to what they do than that but that’s for starters
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 9:27 pm to
Have no idea who gave you your impression of pharmacy but I in no way shape or form answer to nurses

Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 9:34 pm to
The problem is you have two sects of pharmacy almost directly opposed to one another.

There is a very wide chasm between the clinical and the retail pharmacist.

The retail pharmacist in it's current form is a glorified insurance navigator. This position is evaporating and the future of pharmacy is performing clinical services.

Unfortunately, the retail side attracted a ton of riff-raff that wanted easy money. These people are not qualified nor intelligent enough to actually meaningfully impact patient care.

Then you have the clinical side full of people who had >3.5 undergrad science gpas and did a residency who are unfortunately tethered to the aforementioned riff-raff.


It's no coincidence retail pay is dropping and hospital/clinical pay is holding/rising. A reckoning is coming and it won't be pretty.
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