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re: Govt. telling private businesses what to do

Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57923 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:18 pm to
Because muh (made up fantasy version of) conservatism
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48722 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:19 pm to
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The government or leader here isn’t just criticizing the company he’s demanding the company do something. He might as well yell at Warner Bros for not releasing the Snyder cut. Or at Audi for not giving us an A6 Avant in the US.




Which there is nothing illegal about

quote:

He’s trying to force corporate policy.


By motivation.

It's about to happen by law.
Posted by frankthetank
Member since Oct 2007
2434 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:20 pm to
The media and the left complained about Trump not using the Defense Production Act, now people are complaining he did.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75193 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:21 pm to
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By motivation.

It's about to happen by law.
Exactly.

Right now, they have a choice.

If he enacts the DPA, there is no choice.
quote:

The Act contains three major sections. The first authorizes the President to require businesses to sign contracts or fulfill orders deemed necessary for national defense. It also allows the president to designate materials to be prohibited from hoarding or price gouging.[3] The second section authorizes the President to establish mechanisms (such as regulations, orders or agencies) to allocate materials, services and facilities to promote national defense. The third section authorizes the President to control the civilian economy so that scarce and/or critical materials necessary to the national defense effort are available for defense needs.[4][5][6]
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The Act also authorizes the President to requisition property, force industry to expand production and the supply of basic resources, impose wage and price controls, settle labor disputes, control consumer and real estate credit, establish contractual priorities, and allocate raw materials towards national defense.[4]
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75193 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:25 pm to
New updates:

GM is now going to build ventilators in their Indiana factory.

They will start in April and goal is 10,000 per month, with potential increases.

That is significantly more than their “6000 by the end of April”.

That is all from the WSJ.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:25 pm to
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The media and the left complained about Trump not using the Defense Production Act, now people are complaining he did.


As a liberal I feel it was racist of him to close off China, but once he did it I feel he waited too long.

RUSSIA
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11160 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

It seems a bit odd to be so reliant upon an auto manufacturer for production of medical equipment. What could go wrong?
Recalls are incoming....


They offered, and gave a promised quota. The government accepted the offer. That is not being reliant. In fact, had that offer not been made, my guess is they would have found alternative means by now. Instead, this is a set back. Thus the public loud cap.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
60874 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:27 pm to
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The media and the left complained about Trump



That’s their biggest problem. It’s all they do with Trump, so much so that it’s like listening to a constant yapping dog that won’t shut up. People eventually become numb to the incessant yapping and tune it out. Who’s to know which particular yap means I should be on alert?

Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
104347 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

It seems a bit odd to be so reliant upon an auto manufacturer for production of medical equipment. What could go wrong?
Recalls are incoming....


You'd be surprised at how quickly they can retool and honestly, they're an already established manufacturer. It's the best option to that's already set up for mass production.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:28 pm to
Trump = Socialist Authoritarian in Chief
quote:


Using the bully pulpit is not the same as government mandates

Please... if Obama posted this you would be losing your shite. Sorry, your Emperor has been exposed.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 1:30 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57923 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

GM is now going to build ventilators in their Indiana factory. They will start in April and goal is 10,000 per month, with potential increases. That is significantly more than their “6000 by the end of April”.


Lord emperor Trump
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6205 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:30 pm to
Government can't have any say in how Government Motors is run? This is news to me.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39366 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Trump is a modern conservative, baw. the democrats of the 80's and 90's (such as Trump was) dont exist anymore. Modern conservatives are yesterday's moderates. The avg conservative republican today is less conservative than 80's moderate dems. maybe you kiddos will figure it out some day.



Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68368 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

As a liberal I feel it was racist of him to close off China, but once he did it I feel he waited too long.

RUSSIA


You nailed it. Well done
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70593 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36951 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

he’s demanding the company do something


And what's the penalty if they don't? Nothing.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:44 pm to
They got to have plans, tooling for the machines, components from the suppliers, and a plan to have parts.

If they are not in this business it is not like poof we can mfg ventilators.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83933 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:45 pm to
This board is so bored

you can tell because a Putin fan sparked a conversation about authoritarianism without any pushback
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36951 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:46 pm to
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Trump needs to make up his mind. Is this serious or not?

Trump told Hannity: “I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You go into major hospitals sometimes, and they’ll have two ventilators. And now all of a sudden they’re saying, ‘Can we order 30,000 ventilators?’”


What does that have to do with this thread?
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8334 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:48 pm to
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