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re: Government Street 'road diet' results: more business, less traffic

Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:07 am to
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:07 am to
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And more murders.


bullshite. Show me the numbers that back your idiotic claim,
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/5/23 at 7:42 am to
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This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 9:44 am
Posted by coffeesmeller
Member since Nov 2021
232 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 7:45 am to
all they had to do was lower the speed limit and enforce it, just wait till interstate construction or a bad hurricane, its gonna be a nightmare
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 8:27 am to
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Traffic counts on Government Street were 12% higher in 2022


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Traffic is higher. Which is a no shite. These idiots went from 4 lanes to 2.



A traffic count is the total number of cars that go through a given point over a given time interval. It is foreseeable that going from 4 lanes to 2 would increase congestion, as you are suggesting, but it should actually discourage drivers from using the road and decrease traffic count, all else being equal. Some other factor is involved here. Its probably coming from certain OT posters hoping they can catch a murder on film and post it for another one of their snuff film circle jerks.

This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 8:29 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42645 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 8:54 am to
In the morning paper, they say the supporters of the Government Street plan want to use the same concepts on Essen, Perkins, Plank, Nicholson and Florida.

Good luck with that.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177370 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:05 am to
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Which is the point.

You're not going to make the roads safer until you get cars off of them. There are no measures in infrastructure upgrades that can make people drive safer other than slowing them down or getting them off the road.

No, numbers show more cars are on the road. It used to be a 4 lane road with no divider. People turning left blocked traffic and people trying to enter the road had to cross 4 lanes with no center divider. Traffic incidents are down because there are now less lanes to cross. Cars aren’t off of government street.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104086 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:43 am to
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want to use the same concepts on Essen




Anyone trying to walk down Essen is fricking insane.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:43 am to
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use the same concepts on Essen, Perkins,


That just doesn't make sense. The people who live in the neighborhood behind the strip club on Bennington (whatever its called now) will not like that.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42645 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:45 am to
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Anyone trying to walk down Essen is fricking insane.


And Essen is the best it’s been in a long while.
Lol
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70532 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 10:03 am to
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It takes so long to get places in BR because BR is tiny and the roadways were set a long time ago when there weren't quite as many people around


BR is actually NOT tiny. BR is shockingly HUGE in land area, it’s just not densely populated. I think people really fail to understand just how much physically larger distances are in Baton Rouge compared with a walkable urban city like New Orleans.

One of the most popular areas of Magazine St for example, between Jefferson and State Street is home to Whole Foods, Saba, Reginelli’s, District Donuts, and literally dozens of other businesses. That stretch is less than half a mile long.

If you were to take that stretch and place it over Government Street in Baton Rouge, it would only stretch from the post office to Foster Dr. The distances between amenities, even in Baton Rouge’s densest neighborhoods are still sparser than most suburban neighborhoods in East Jefferson Parish.

In addition, as said previously, Government is one of the very few east/west surface streets in the city that connects to downtown. There are 7 total streets leaving downtown heading east/west that make it to 22nd street, and just two that continue past foster.

In New Orleans, of the 10 east/west streets leaving the CBD, while they nearly all change names along the way, 7 of them make it all the way to Audubon Park and Loyola/Tulane. Those that don’t have an easy grid of additional east/west streets that provide orders of magnitude more options to take.

The reality is that without significant redesign to Baton Rouge’s street grid (which would require demolishing significantly large numbers of buildings, Baton Rouge cannot be retrofitted to create a dense, walkable, urban landscape outside of downtown. Street grids are too big (if there exists a grid at all), buildings are too far apart, the weather is too miserable most of the year, and there’s simply not enough people who desire that lifestyle to fill in developments who push for this, especially since they tend to be limited in scope, isolated geographically from other walkable areas (meaning you need a car to get to/from there), BR’s mass transit is atrocious even when compared to similarly sprawling cities, the desperate state of the commercial and retail real-estate market post-covid, the lack of white collar jobs in Baton Rouge, the crime, the schools, and the list goes on and on and on.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42645 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 10:33 am to
I’d also like to note that Government is the southern most east/west artery that goes to the river except for I 10/I 12.

People going to LSU use it and take Nicholson to the campus. Government/ Jefferson corridor has been a natural artery over decades.
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
4655 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:09 pm to
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want to use the same concepts on Essen, Perkins, Plank


?????? Walking on Essen or Perkins?

... yes i'm sure this will boost business development on Plank Road.
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