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re: Gov Abbott closes all bars state wide

Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:04 am to
Posted by cleeveclever
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2046 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:04 am to
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Please explain how this..

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is any worse than


I see several masks in the lower pic and none in the upper...

Not saying that means anything from a viral spread standpoint but if you were analyzing the two images - that at least stands out.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27254 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:04 am to
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Texas is the last bastion of freedom and liberty according to this board. And they have a Republican Governor.


Shame the virus doesn't favor one political party over another.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
21885 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:04 am to
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You can't figure out why a crowd of people with no masks is worse than a crowd in which 80% are wearing masks?

Wow. And you think this is a good argument
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66662 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:05 am to
its back to the vince young steakhouse, docs in sunset valley, or the salt grass in bee cave it appears
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66662 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:05 am to
i hope palazzio can make it thru this
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5893 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:05 am to
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You sure? What about the fact that cases are surging along the border?


What were the Mexicans protesting?

They're surging in the DFW area, too.

It all comes down to Abbott being one of the most aggressive with his opening. It had to be expected. California opening up now and spiking. This isn't rocket science. There's more interaction so more cases. I don't think he should be going backwards though.

Regarding a checkpoint from Texas into Louisiana. It would hurt Louisiana more than Texas. Would be stupid on JBE's part but that's never stopped him.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127687 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:05 am to
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You can't figure out why a crowd of people with no masks is worse than a crowd in which 80% are wearing masks


Liberals are legit nutcases.
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3553 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:06 am to
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is any worse than



Not worse. Equally risky during a pandemic.

It is not irrational to institute restrictions while your healthcare system is being strained, which it seems is the case in at least parts of Texas.

Posted by philly444
stuck in contraflow
Member since Nov 2008
12129 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:06 am to
I don't understand. I thought it was expected that cases would rise. If no one is dying or gong to the hospital then what is the issue?
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14328 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:06 am to
Y’all can come to Chiraq if you want some Phase 4 freedom. Bring your bulletproof vests
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171933 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:06 am to
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the metric should be hospitalizations. I mean the initial reasoning for shutting down was to put less pressure on the hospitals. Well the media morphed it into cases and idiots lop it up like because there is a new case people should freak out.


The fear mongering over just cases is so fricking annoying. There isn’t a correlation in the more serious metrics and we should be celebrating that, not shutting back down.
Posted by PierPunk
#BugaNation
Member since Apr 2013
3317 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:06 am to
He couldn't wait until tomorrow? I've been looking forward to Friday HH all week
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41875 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:07 am to
are the bars closed indefinitely until abbott changes his mind?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127687 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:07 am to
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which it seems is the case in at least parts of Texas.


I have not seen any evidence that it is the case.

Hospitals were doing more elective procedures that had been backed up for months.

The hospitals from my understanding are even't close to be strained, especially if you halt those.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
11848 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:08 am to
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You can't figure out why a crowd of people with no masks is worse than a crowd in which 80% are wearing masks?


So many masks...

Remember, all it takes is one person to spread it.






This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 10:10 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171933 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:08 am to
Yes as I understand it to be.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9468 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:08 am to



give the gov a break, he legalized take out drinks two months ago
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27254 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:10 am to
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the metric should be hospitalizations. I mean the initial reasoning for shutting down was to put less pressure on the hospitals. Well the media morphed it into cases and idiots lop it up like because there is a new case people should freak out.


This is correct. Now that we are in mass testing, with more than 10,000 tests every day in a state, the raw number of positive test results will increase, without there necessarily being an increase in the negative aspects of the virus. Hospitalization and death counts provide greater insight into the severity of the infection and its impact. We shouldn't make large scale public health decisions based upon raw numbers of positive tests, when there is no corresponding increase in true negative health impact.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4415 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:10 am to
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its okay to say both. perfectly reasonable to assume cases are rising because of the protests AND the overcapacity of bars, etc



Agree. I will always feel that a packed indoor, climate controlled establishment, with mostly still air, will be much more conducive to spreading the virus than any outdoor activity, whether it be a protest, people hanging out at the beach or ballpark, or whatever it may be. It's been proven that heat and humidity can affect the virus. Those elements do not come into play if you are inside whether it is summer or winter.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171933 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:11 am to
It’s not raw data, it’s positivity rate. That would be a concerning number if the other metrics were spiking along with it.
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