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re: Google does not like TigerDroppings - blacklists it!

Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:52 pm to
what is funny about this is that if you search "examples of google bias"

at the bottom of the page, Google literally gives you links to "popular conservative websites", some of which are apparently "blacklisted"

examples Daily Wire, Breitbard, RedState, Townhall, FreeBeacon, etc

so much for blacklisting those sites...
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:53 pm to
"Don't worry, the white hats are working hard to undo this travesty!"

- Q thread
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:55 pm to
Poliboard is an echo chamber full of insane conspiracy incels.

*Clicks r/politics tab.*
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
62850 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:00 pm to
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You are too ate up with this shite to think logically.


Not one post without a personal attack. Want to frick off with that bullshite or no?

It took me 3 tries to find that article (by finally searching "Epstein Google bias") using various search results. I am not making that up, you need me to be making it up to justify your own thinking. It is the top result when I use the same 3 original searches now, being purple as a previously clicked link. I also see other results that were not originally there (as an interesting side note). You're dismissing the nature of how the internet works, all so you can deflect from the substance of my previous post, and attack me personally.

Pretend I'm lying if it will get you to focus on the content of the articles you're currently ignoring. I do care when someone calls me a liar without merit, but for the purposes of this discussion, I'll look past that.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:02 pm to
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"If Google thinks a peer-reviewed researcher who recently testified before the Senate about Google bias is not important, they will adjust the info they feed me accordingly."



First, I did the "bias" Google search on my work laptop which outside of Lexus/Nexus see almost zero internet access and got the same results with "Trump is right" as the first result.

Second, I search for peer-reviewed work quite a bit and they are notoriously hard to find without a very specific search, partly to do with poor SEO and partly because they are buried due to very low traffic, often they are several pages down because very few people actually are looking for them. It is like searching for a very niche brand in a general consumer sector. Without using the brand name you will mainly get Amazon, eBay etc.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
171035 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:02 pm to
Top 3 on mine searching what they did:

Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:06 pm to
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I guess I should clarify that this is the blacklist for their news aggregator.


Well Larry Leo does suck arse so it shouldn't be shock that somebody might try to stop his internet herpes from spreading.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:07 pm to
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"If Google thinks a peer-reviewed researcher who recently testified before the Senate about Google bias is not important, they will adjust the info they feed me accordingly."

Are you still talking about the guy who wrote the article that pops up #1 on google when you search "examples of google bias"?

And FYI, when I google "google bias testimony", which is actually kind of vague considering all that's out there on the topic, and the #5 result was actually a youtube video of Dr Epstein's testimony.

So, without ever hearing of him, it was dead simple for me to find both an anti-google article that he wrote, as well as a fricking video of his senate testimony talking about google. All I had to do was search for very general phrases related to Google bias. I don't know why you're having so much trouble with this.
Posted by OweO
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:08 pm to
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On my phone...I often get recommended "stories" from popular blogs/forums. In particular, related to the vehicle I drive and my favorite sport(s).

I've also seen stuff linked from 247 that's related to my LSU interests.




On the google app, I have it set to give me stories related to my interest, sometimes I get news stories from this site. I think this site is actually considered a sports site.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:08 pm to
So apparently GR8Tiger was wrong about the google search results but he was right that google filters out conservatives? In attacking his search skills you provided the links Draconian was looking for.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:08 pm to
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But why should a message board show up in a search for news articles?


Because Tigerdroppings breaks news before its news

And Tigerdroppings solves murder cases
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:12 pm to
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So apparently GR8Tiger was wrong about the google search results but he was right that google filters out conservatives? In attacking his search skills you provided the links Draconian was looking for.



the general "problem" is that Google more than likely is biased on what it considers "extreme" views in regards to the "right" or the "left"

it isn't filtering out straight up conservative news or sites, but what it deems "far right" sites, which they are probably a bit more easy going on their definition of "far left"

every company is going to have inherent biases, its impossible not to when humans are the ones controlling things

but it isn't near the problem that some conservatives won't to make it seem
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57446 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:14 pm to
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From what I can tell, this isn't accurate.

Google is worried about one thing. Having people use their products.



It's for the news searches on Google not the entire internet, search tigerdroppings and filter google to news. Let me know how many TD links show up.

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I think this site is actually considered a sports site.


Which is why it's on the black list for news site results on google
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:15 pm to
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Not one post without a personal attack. Want to frick off with that bullshite or no?
Not really, because the problems you keep presenting seem to only exist in your own little bubble.

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It took me 3 tries to find that article (by finally searching "Epstein Google bias") using various search results. I am not making that up, you need me to be making it up to justify your own thinking. It is the top result when I use the same 3 original searches now, being purple as a previously clicked link. I also see other results that were not originally there (as an interesting side note). You're dismissing the nature of how the internet works, all so you can deflect from the substance of my previous post, and attack me personally.
Nah, man, this is just complete bullshite. Google would almost have to be watching this conversation real-time in order to adjust your results that quickly as some sort of coverup for skewing your results beforehand. The rest of us found the same article no problem.
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Pretend I'm lying if it will get you to focus on the content of the articles you're currently ignoring.
I read the article, I just didn't find it particularly enlightening or anything.
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I do care when someone calls me a liar without merit
Without merit?! Several posters have posted that your claimed results are not at all what they're getting from google. On top of that, when asked for proof of your results, they have conveniently changed instantly to match ours!

Get out of here with that shite.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
62850 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:17 pm to
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"google bias testimony"


Good search. I bet that would have done it for me too. Probably not a lot of results that would fit. You'd have to assume there was any testimony of course, so you're welcome for giving you that info. Did you happen to read the article or watch the video by chance? Since you know, the critique on my Google skills is a pretty effective sideshow to the intent of the thread.

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it was dead simple for me to find both an anti-google article that he wrote


After having already viewed the article. Any chance that had something to do with it? We're talking AI, algorithms and machine learning here.

shite, at least I got you searching this shite.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:17 pm to
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After having already viewed the article. Any chance that had something to do with it? We're talking AI, algorithms and machine learning here.



I never clicked on your links before my search

just FWIW
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
62850 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:24 pm to
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Google would almost have to be watching this conversation real-time in order to adjust your results that quickly


This is a statement with zero regard for how Google works.


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when asked for proof of your results, they have conveniently changed instantly to match ours!


as is this.

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The rest of us found the same article no problem.


Because I gave you the fricking link, which you clicked before keying a search that was related to it. Do you get spooked when a car dealership ad pops up on your screen after you click a review of the 2020 Chevy Corvette? Do you get spooked when that exact same review comes up in the results when you search "2020 Chevy Corvettes"? Have you never noticed dynamic search results before? I'm seriously curious now.

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I read the article, I just didn't find it particularly enlightening or anything.


Yikes.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113896 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:31 pm to
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Google also agrees that this site needs to align better with their own beliefs. The question being asked these days is if that's how we want the largest gatekeeper of online information to operate.

We'll put you in the group saying, "as long as their beliefs align with my own, then yes that's how they should operate."

Is that fair?


It's fair to say... some of you people will believe anything without putting a second thought behind it. The cult mentality is strong when it comes to political parties.

People will believe whatever they are told to believe.

shite like this is what divides people even more. Its amazing.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:31 pm to
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Good search. I bet that would have done it for me too. Probably not a lot of results that would fit. You'd have to assume there was any testimony of course, so you're welcome for giving you that info.
Are you really complaining that a really obscure bit of news is hard to find without reasonably targeted search terms? Google can't read your mind, my man. If you had hoped to just search "google bias" and magically be presented with the exact thing you wanted, well, I don't know what to tell you. Though, even that general search does produce a result (at #5) about the trial for which Dr Epstein testified, though it doesn't mention him specifically.
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Since you know, the critique on my Google skills is a pretty effective sideshow to the intent of the thread.
You have made your lack of google skills the new topic of discussion. You keep trying to throw up these big examples of google bias, but no one else can reproduce your supposed results.
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After having already viewed the article. Any chance that had something to do with it? We're talking AI, algorithms and machine learning here.
That would be a possibility, of course, if there were blatant bias going on. That would be a strange strategy on google's part, though, showing us more rational searchers anti-google material with no obvious biases.

Also, again, google's results closely match bing and duckduckgo for every "google bias" query I can think of. I have found no examples of google hiding anything negative from me. I even tested some of your dear doctor's theories about search suggestions, and when I type "google bias" Google dutifully gives me suggestions along the lines of "lawsuit", "election", "examples", and "news".
Posted by AlonsoWDC
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Member since Aug 2014
8759 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:33 pm to
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I wouldn't be surprised... especially with the Poli board heavily leaning to the right


Leaning



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