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Posted on 1/29/21 at 12:27 pm to slaphappy
I have seen/read discussions regarding EV impact on the power grid.
Pro's:
- nightly EV charging helps balance day/night power demand swings and reduces the need for additional generating capacity.
- EV batteries can act as backup power (assuming you have the right electronics in your car & home) during black/brown-outs
Con's - just about everything else.
I checked the EPRI (Electric Power Research Institute) website and found this article (didn't watch the video). Mostly a lovefest on green energy/zero CO2 (no specific mention of nuclear) but no details.
As some mentioned earlier, I'd like to see more progress on standards for chargers, interconnects and the like before we go too far down this path.
Pro's:
- nightly EV charging helps balance day/night power demand swings and reduces the need for additional generating capacity.
- EV batteries can act as backup power (assuming you have the right electronics in your car & home) during black/brown-outs
Con's - just about everything else.
I checked the EPRI (Electric Power Research Institute) website and found this article (didn't watch the video). Mostly a lovefest on green energy/zero CO2 (no specific mention of nuclear) but no details.
As some mentioned earlier, I'd like to see more progress on standards for chargers, interconnects and the like before we go too far down this path.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 12:35 pm to Twenty 49
SIAP but this is simple posturing by the corporation to get a hundred billion dollars in future bailout money and/or subsidy, that will all eventually paid back by your children and grand children.
This is political PR.
This is political PR.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 12:39 pm to Twenty 49
Man people are going to be late af to work whenever they forget to charge 
Posted on 1/29/21 at 1:19 pm to Twenty 49
Now they're telling us what we can and cannot drive, meanwhile the global climate trend will continue since none of the communist U.S. and European environmental regulations, to be passed, will have any effect on it. China is laughing now and will continue to laugh.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 1:21 pm to bad93ex
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No current electric vehicle can make it across all of Texas on a single charge.
They will say that you don't need to do this.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 1:28 pm to Reservoir dawg
quote:Or they will just point out that the large majority of gas vehicles can't do the same
They will say that you don't need to do this.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 2:39 pm to Reservoir dawg
Not to get all tinfoil hatty, but consider this. Telsa currently downloads updates to their cars over the air.
I could see where, in the not-too-distant future, your EV uploading mileage data so our benevolent overlords, to be used to compute our road usage tax. Or, worse, our not-so-benevolent overlords could download restrictions on when and where we are allowed to drive our cars.
Either could be done with standard vehicles, it's just an added perk in the move towards EV's.
I could see where, in the not-too-distant future, your EV uploading mileage data so our benevolent overlords, to be used to compute our road usage tax. Or, worse, our not-so-benevolent overlords could download restrictions on when and where we are allowed to drive our cars.
Either could be done with standard vehicles, it's just an added perk in the move towards EV's.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 2:42 pm to Unobtanium
Yea environmentalism. Let’s strip mine the earth for heavy metals for batteries - fracking bad, mining good. Until it’s bad, then what?
Posted on 1/29/21 at 2:52 pm to Unobtanium
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to be used to compute our road usage tax.
This is absolutely going to happen and is already being discussed.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 2:58 pm to fallguy_1978
Yep, and imagine this scenario.
You live in an ozone non-attainment zone, like Baton Rouge. Someone in the DEQ decides that cars with even-numbered plates can't drive today, or can only drive 20 miles per day.
This would be a bureaucratic tree hugger's wet dream.
You live in an ozone non-attainment zone, like Baton Rouge. Someone in the DEQ decides that cars with even-numbered plates can't drive today, or can only drive 20 miles per day.
This would be a bureaucratic tree hugger's wet dream.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 3:00 pm to Unobtanium
Supposedly GM’s battery tech can be charged to 60% inside of 10 minutes. GM will be building electric vehicles for Honda starting next year.
Cadillac and Hummer are the first new EV’s with this technology.
Cadillac and Hummer are the first new EV’s with this technology.
This post was edited on 1/29/21 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 1/29/21 at 3:37 pm to member12
I looked up electric vehicle salesono car max, auto trader, car fax etc and found the average used ev for sale had 25-30 thousand miles on it with a couple outliers at 60-65 thousand miles, less than 3 %. age of vehicles was 1-8 years. no vehicles older than 8 years.
observation 1 when compared against a gas suv/pu which I would expect to last 15 years and 150-200 thousand miles that give a purchase cost advantage of 3-4 times an ev.
observation 2 the lack of vehicles for sale after 8 years lines up great with the warrantee provided with the manufacturer. At 8 years and a day, it either turns into a brick or is not financeable by a bank.
observation 3. to recycle a standard car, you drop the whole thing into a crusher and away it goes. With an ev you have to disassemble manually with labor cost much more.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 3:49 pm to Trevaylin
quote:Or is it that there weren't exactly very many viable EV options prior to 2012?
I looked up electric vehicle salesono car max, auto trader, car fax etc and found the average used ev for sale had 25-30 thousand miles on it with a couple outliers at 60-65 thousand miles, less than 3 %. age of vehicles was 1-8 years. no vehicles older than 8 years.
observation 1 when compared against a gas suv/pu which I would expect to last 15 years and 150-200 thousand miles that give a purchase cost advantage of 3-4 times an ev.
observation 2 the lack of vehicles for sale after 8 years lines up great with the warrantee provided with the manufacturer. At 8 years and a day, it either turns into a brick or is not financeable by a bank.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 4:41 pm to HogX
quote:
No current electric vehicle can make it across all of Texas on a single charge.
quote:
My vehicle sure as shite can't go across Texas on one tank of gas either.
I've got a Land Cruiser...I get 14 mpg (at best) on the highway and have a 25 gallon tank. That's right at 350 miles per tank.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 4:43 pm to shel311
Question for those with EVs. If you charge regularly at home, how does it affect your electricity bill?
Posted on 1/29/21 at 4:45 pm to The Implication
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It only takes you 5 minutes to fill your vehicle vs a 1hr + full charge at a supercharging station
That’s not true. The nod goes to gas obviously but it’s less than 40 minutes to full charge with current models.
200 miles range in 15 minutes.
And there are already experimental roads in use allowing for charging while driving on highway.
This post was edited on 1/29/21 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 1/29/21 at 4:50 pm to Twenty 49
Smart - goals will help ensure they keep up with the competition.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 4:53 pm to bad93ex
quote:
No current electric vehicle can make it across all of Texas on a single charge.
Is there a gas engine that gets 850 miles to the tank?
Posted on 1/29/21 at 5:39 pm to Twenty 49
Electic Silverados? Rednecks have not been this pissed off since they canceled Hee-Haw.
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