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re: GM, Ford are all-in on EVs..here’s how their dealers feel about it

Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:16 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:16 pm to
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Im not anti petroleum. I'm just not anti EV for no reason either


For some reason conservatives have it ingrained into them that anyone who is pro-ev or even someone who just recognizes that evs will eventually be the norm is some tree hugging ecofascist hypocrite who wants to ban oil.



It’s hilarious.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:16 pm to
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It’s nowhere near affordable.


The first flat-screen plasma TV my parents bought in like 05 was $3k. The same sized TV with 5x better quality is now like $400
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:20 pm to
I think the gigafactories Tesla has scaling up around the world show a different trend altogether.

They have survived the prototype and production line creation problems that can bankrupt billionaires. If we are legit looking at gigafactories in Germany and China on top of the ones in the United States coming online over the next few months and years then things are changing incredibly fast and we should pay attention.

Each of those can produce hundreds of thousands of vehicles annually and no other car manufacturer seems close to that in EV sphere.

We will see in time. If you are curious you could also compare Tesla with the traditional automobile producers when it comes to EV production and take note

If they are going to make awesome cars that take less money to maintain I am in. Till then I will wait. I am optimistic about Tesla and pessimistic about the other American manufacturers based on trajectory.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:20 pm to
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Im not anti petroleum. I'm just not anti EV for no reason either


You shouldn’t dismiss the skeptics as stupid or misinformed. Some of them have legitimate reasons to prefer ICE vehicles now. And they are even more justified in being skeptical of what the media or their own government is pushing.

Coming from someone who had a deposit on a Cybertruck until I learned that we are moving to a semi-rural area.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:22 pm to
Where do we dispose of the toxic waste from all of these vehicles????
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43338 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:22 pm to
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The first flat-screen plasma TV my parents bought in like 05 was $3k. The same sized TV with 5x better quality is now like $400



Let me know when EVs are reduced to near 10% of the current prices.

This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 7:23 pm
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:22 pm to
In the abandoned lithium mines, duh.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35348 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:24 pm to
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Where do we dispose of the toxic waste from all of these vehicles????


Why would the average consumer care about that?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:25 pm to
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You shouldn’t dismiss the skeptics as stupid or misinformed.


EV's are ready for the masses yet, but acting like they're some fad, government conspiracy, or only for AOC types is moronic
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43338 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:26 pm to
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It’s hilarious.


Nah, what's hilarious is that people like you are cheerleading the government to ram this shite down everyone's throats.

I'll own a Rivian truck in the next two or three years after they work the kinks out based on what I need. But you government cocksuckers are a strange bunch.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:27 pm to
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what's hilarious is that people like you are cheerleading the government to ram this shite down everyone's throats.


Link to one of my posts saying anything of the sort?



Or are you just a lying sack of shite?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43338 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:28 pm to
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Link to one of my posts saying anything of the sort?


Rather obvious since you shite all over anyone who doesn't suck the EV cock.

Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
48565 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:29 pm to
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For some reason conservatives have it ingrained into them that anyone who is pro-ev or even someone who just recognizes that evs will eventually be the norm is some tree hugging ecofascist hypocrite who wants to ban oil.

I feel about the same way about the EV fanboys that don't recognize that there are serious drawbacks to the technology at this point for a lot of people.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43338 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:31 pm to
It's rather funny that I fully plan on never buying an ICE vehicle ever again.

Yet my response to this thread, and the response by Kilroy and Mingo, are rather starkly different.



Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:31 pm to
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Rather obvious since you shite all over anyone who doesn't suck the EV cock.



Not really. You just live perpetually butthurt
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16584 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:31 pm to
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I think Ms. Rita could be in for a bit of a shock when it comes to how often EVs need (or don't need) service. Teslas don't even require any scheduled maintenance anymore.


You are utterly retarded if you seriously believe this is true.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43338 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:32 pm to
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You just live perpetually butthurt


Says the kid who is a pissed off douche in ever single one of the threads he participates in.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35348 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:34 pm to
I do?

I shite all over people who have shitty arguments like saying evs are a terrible product because they don’t beat out ICE in every single use case that could ever exist.

My other favorite is people’s arguments being dependent on technology never improving in the future.



Or the worn out “EVs are bad for the environment” argument. Who cares?




Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43338 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:36 pm to
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I do?


Yes, you do.

Next question.

Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48565 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:37 pm to
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It's rather funny that I fully plan on never buying an ICE vehicle ever again.

There are too many negatives for me to consider an EV anytime soon (charging at home, charging time, range, availability etc). Once they get to a point where they are better than ICE vehicles the market would just work itself out. But that's not what is going to happen.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 7:41 pm
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