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re: Getting rid of popcorn ceilings?

Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:19 pm to
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Sounds like scraping is 'technically' easy enough for me to do and probably doesn't require any experience. I tend to agree with you on the new stuff they are going to be putting up. I'll leave that to professionals. Any recommendations?


maybe/maybe not. if you arent used to working with your arms above your head for hours and hours you are going to be in a bind.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138173 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:22 pm to
Contractor will be very expensive because hugh likelihood that it contains asbestos. Years of asbestos experience tells me that the friable material will costs roughly $8-$10 per sf to abate.
Posted by Elvis Parsley
Red Stuck
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:24 pm to
If it's been painted its easier to cover in 1/4"sheetrock and finish and paint. If it's unpainted cover floor with plastic, wet rock with water/pump up sprayer. Scrape popcorn. Patience pays off. When dry touch up sheetrock re-texture repaint. Eazypeezy!
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175851 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:24 pm to
Congrats on making me get the red ink pen out.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6672 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:25 pm to
I have never heard of asbestos in popcorn ceiling.

Its basically mud.

Got to be trolling
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2169 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:25 pm to
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Contractor will be very expensive because hugh likelihood that it contains asbestos. Years of asbestos experience tells me that the friable material will costs roughly $8-$10 per sf to abate.


There shouldn't be a problem with asbestos if the house was built in the last 35 years.
Posted by Elvis Parsley
Red Stuck
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625 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:25 pm to
Scraper with along handle is your friend
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:27 pm to
so why is it tougher to do if it's painted as opposed to non?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47223 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:27 pm to
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Scraper with along handle is your friend


you are going to find out about alot of muscles you didnt know you had
Posted by zbrous4
Gonzales via DeRidder
Member since Aug 2009
448 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:30 pm to
I have personally done almost every room in my house. See steps below from my experience. Doing it this way takes a good bit of time to prep but you will be thankful when it's time to clean up.

1. Plastic on floor and at least 3/4 high up the wall. Trust me, go up the wall.
2. Puf brown contractor paper under the plastic on the floor. Tape the seams with painters tape.
3. Get a 1 gal. pump sprayer (like what you put weed killer in) and dampen ceiling in 5'×5' sections
Posted by Elvis Parsley
Red Stuck
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:31 pm to
True dat. Water, dust mask, and a good rinse and change of clothes diminishes risk.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9775 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:31 pm to
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Scraper with along handle is your friend



In my case, after trying every technique listed here, I found that scraping it completely dry with a 3" scraper (the heavy duty kind they sell for taking up flooring), worked well. I was left with something that looked a lot like an "orange peel" finish, without having to go back and do anything but paint it. In fact, when we did our addition, with had them do a orange peel on it, and they ended up matching very well. It was very messy. I wore a mask the whole time, and ran a big box fan blowing out through a window while I did it.

Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15651 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:32 pm to
The problem with removing it is it's usually covering a shitty drywall ceiling installation. The original drywall installer new it was getting texture so very little effort was made to tape and make smooth joints.
Posted by Elvis Parsley
Red Stuck
Member since Jan 2004
625 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:33 pm to
Urite.....I have done this many times. Not for the weak.
Posted by Elvis Parsley
Red Stuck
Member since Jan 2004
625 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:34 pm to
U may as well plan on at least a skim coat on everything.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26183 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:38 pm to
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a skim coat on everything.



Educate me. What do you mean by skim coat?
Posted by Chili Davis
Wichita, KS
Member since Nov 2010
916 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:41 pm to
If the popcorn ceiling has shiny gold fleck it is probably asbestos containing. In fact, a large problem in older schools across the country is sprayed on ceiling texture that contains asbestos.

Lots of "sheetrock mud-like materials" contained asbestos because it is a good binder. I would say that in 75% of the inspections of structures that I do, contain asbestos in some form of "mud".

In fact, you can still purchase sheetrock mud in the USA that contains asbestos today. Consumers should look for "asbestos free" mud and vinyl floor tile. Tons of chinese goods are brought into the USA every year that are not asbestos free. Another common misconception is that asbestos was banned across the board back in the 70's. That isn't true. Some building materials out there can still contain asbestos. You just have to read the labels.

I'd say if the house was built before 1980, spend $200 and have some samples collected of the ceiling material. If it does contain asbestos, it is friable. Your scraping job will become exponentially more expensive at that point.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26183 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:44 pm to
Even if the disclosure statement from the seller said the house does not contain asbestos eh?
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7476 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:44 pm to
Anyone ever remodeled their ceiling to raise it from 8ft to maybe 9 or 10ft? Maybe even a vaulted ceiling?
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13327 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:53 pm to
We remodeled a bathroom that had it in there. Not huge, maybe 8x12, but the bath above it had leaked and that's why it had popcorn on it. One of the previous owners got lazy and just sprayed it and left it like that. I thought about scraping it when I was doing the renovation but just tore it out instead and had new put in since I was ripping walls out as well. It probably wouldn't be that bad if you ripped it all out and replaced. I'd rather pay someone a few grand than to kill my shoulders and neck by scraping all that by myself. Rip it out yourself and just let a pro do the new. You could rip it all out yourself in one day.
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