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Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:22 pm to CptBengal
Any riots yet? 
Posted on 7/22/16 at 6:38 am to LSUTANGERINE
quote:holy frick even worse
The Florida cop who shot an unarmed therapist on the street was actually aiming for the man’s autistic patient
what a goddamn idiot
Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:52 am to The Egg
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The Florida cop who shot an unarmed therapist on the street was actually aiming for the man’s autistic patient
holy frick even worse
what a goddamn idiot
For the statement put out by the Miami cops to be true, we have to believe the following.
1. The cops on the scene were nearsighted almost to the point of being legally blind. That's the only way they'd not be able to tell the guy sitting up had a toy truck in his hand instead of a gun.
2. The cops on the scene were hearing impaired almost to the point of being totally deaf. That's the only way they'd not be able to hear the man clearly communicating with them.
3. The cops on the scene are untrained in the use of firearms and generally piss poor shots.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:57 am to bisonduck
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This is why I would never be a cop. I would be the dude that freaks out and misfires.
Some people probably don't realize this until it's too late.
Sure, but it doesn't exclude them from criminal charges. I'm not saying you suggested otherwise, but we can admit that being a cop is tough without having to give them a pass when they do commit a crime. I know it's tough, you know it's tough, so it damn sure isn't a surprise to the people who actually do it. If you cannot handle the job that isn't my fault and it surely isn't the fault of the person you may kill as a result.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:02 am to LSUTANGERINE
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The unidentified North Miami police officer thought Charles Kinsey — who was lying on his back with his arms in the air — was in danger, his union chief said. The patient, who escaped from MACtown Inc., a nearby group home where Kinsey works, had a toy in his hand.
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Kinsey, while on his back and on the ground, put his arms in the air to show police he wasn’t armed. The cop fired three times, striking Kinsey in the leg. The 23-year-old patient, who was on the ground sitting next to Kinsey, was not hurt.
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Despite the union’s claims that Kinsey was accidentally wounded, he was still handcuffed while facedown on the ground after the shooting.
I mean you can't really make this kind of shite up. Cop tries to shoot a white/Hispanic man and STILL manages to hit an innocent black man instead. It's almost like an SNL skit.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:02 am to slackster
Let's take stock of what we had going on in Miami...
There's an autistic guy sitting in the street playing with a toy truck. Next to him is his councilor laying flat on his back, hands up in he air, while he clearly identifies himself and the autistic guy next to him. Neither guy is making any threatning moves.
So how does the cop react to the situation? Well time to shoot someone.
There's an autistic guy sitting in the street playing with a toy truck. Next to him is his councilor laying flat on his back, hands up in he air, while he clearly identifies himself and the autistic guy next to him. Neither guy is making any threatning moves.
So how does the cop react to the situation? Well time to shoot someone.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:05 am to slackster
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Despite the union’s claims that Kinsey was accidentally wounded, he was still handcuffed while facedown on the ground after the shooting.
Yeah that right there proves the statement they put out today is pure bullshite.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:42 am to LSUTANGERINE
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The Florida cop who shot an unarmed therapist on the street was actually aiming for the man’s autistic patient
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Yikes.
So still an accidental shot, but only because he was trying to kill the autistic guy and missed.
This deserves attempted murder and reckless endangerment charges, but 10:1 odds this dude will probably find a way to keep his badge and gun.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:43 am to Darth_Vader
It is a terrible look. Thank God no one was killed. They fricked up on all kinds of levels. As I said earlier in the thread, I commend the other officers for not unloading once their incompetent "brother in arms" rattled off 3 shots, completely missing his intended target with all three mind you.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:51 am to slackster
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I commend the other officers for not unloading
Commend? That's like saying they were inclined to kill a harmless autistic dude but held off on all temptations. Is there really no expectation anymore that LEO will do the right thing?
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:54 am to NYNolaguy1
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Commend? That's like saying they were inclined to kill a harmless autistic dude but held off on all temptations. Is there really no expectation anymore that LEO will do the right thing?
Nah, I'm saying I'd imagine if you all have your weapons drawn and aimed at the guy, and some idiot rattles off 3 rounds, I can imagine your instincts to pull the trigger as well are difficult to overcome. They don't need an award or anything, but I think it is worth mentioning.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:03 am to slackster
The statement issued by the union that he was firing to save to the guy's life are why people distrust and resent police. It appears that this officer really fricked up and the Union is running to cover his arse. If this guy is able to keep his job there should be protests.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:13 am to Dizz
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The statement issued by the union that he was firing to save to the guy's life are why people distrust and resent police. It appears that this officer really fricked up and the Union is running to cover his arse. If this guy is able to keep his job there should be protests.
I mean I get it, because that is what a union does, but damn they need to do a better job of presenting the facts and distancing themselves from situations where their guy fricked up.
Saying nothing is preferable to coming out and painting a picture like they did.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:15 am to slackster
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I mean I get it, because that is what a union does
I get that aspect of it as well but they lose all credibility with that statement. That just furthers the narrative (true or untrue) that cops do bad things and get away with it. The more I read about it the more the more absurd it becomes.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:20 am to Dizz
If there was ever a cut and dry case where the cops need to be charged tried convicted and sentenced it's this. Granted I don't think an attempted murder charge is appropriate but this was definitely criminal.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:21 am to slackster
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Nah, I'm saying I'd imagine if you all have your weapons drawn and aimed at the guy, and some idiot rattles off 3 rounds, I can imagine your instincts to pull the trigger as well are difficult to overcome.
Yeah I think he missed the point on that one.
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:25 am to Dizz
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I get that aspect of it as well but they lose all credibility with that statement. That just furthers the narrative (true or untrue) that cops do bad things and get away with it. The more I read about it the more the more absurd it becomes.
Yeah definitely. That was my point too. To some extent they're like a defense attorney who is going to back their guy, but more importantly they should look out for the good of the entire group, not necessarily the individual officer. Unless there is some exonerating evidence we haven't seen/heard, then the best thing for the group is to cut ties with the officer and build credibility.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:33 am to slackster
Boy, some binoculars would have been really beneficial in this situation. I have no problem with the cops showing caution when approaching the scene, but they had to see fairly quickly that the entire situation was big misunderstanding and no gun is involved. They made it out to be a hostage situation or something. That's mistake one.
Then mistake two, one of the unarmed guys gets shot. Have the cops come out and said how and why he was shot?
Then mistake two, one of the unarmed guys gets shot. Have the cops come out and said how and why he was shot?
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:37 am to abellsujr
quote:I thought the same exact thing, not that cops randomly carry those, but it did pop into my head.
Boy, some binoculars would have been really beneficial in this situation
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