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re: Gentrification, good or bad... Thoughts?

Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:21 pm to
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The hipsters in Jackson are not wealthy. They are broke, some homeless.



If Jackson isn't careful, its going to become a smaller Detroit.


Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:22 pm to
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Oh. OK. You think the Democrats aren't run by the wealthy?

Wake up Peter Pan. Count Chocula. You're living in a dip shite dream world.


Wow, that's not true when you think about it. Yes, some Democrats have money, and some have too much money, but most Democrats with money are givers (e.g. look at the charity provided by participants in the entertainment industry).

Greedy rich almost always is Republican. Philanthropic rich majority is Democrat.

Look at public support for the arts. Mostly D.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:22 pm to
Nashville gentrification is insane. Is that not on the list?

In fact, I just bought a house in a gentrified area
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:22 pm to
you just jumped the shark

Posted by yoga girl
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:23 pm to
I don't think that list is accurate.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:23 pm to
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but most Democrats with money are givers (e.g. look at the charity provided by participants in the entertainment industry).





quote:

Greedy rich almost always is Republican. Philanthropic rich majority is Democrat.

Look at public support for the arts. Mostly D.



Posted by burdman
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:23 pm to
Nashville is on there, just a little ways down.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:23 pm to
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If Jackson isn't careful, its going to become a smaller Detroit.


shite, dude, Jackson isn't copying Detroit. Detroit is copying Jackson.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:24 pm to
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shite, dude, Jackson isn't copying Detroit. Detroit is copying Jackson.





Posted by MorgusTheMagnificent
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:24 pm to
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Wow, that's not true when you think about it. Yes, some Democrats have money, and some have too much money, but most Democrats with money are givers (e.g. look at the charity provided by participants in the entertainment industry). Greedy rich almost always is Republican. Philanthropic rich majority is Democrat. Look at public support for the arts. Mostly D.


Do you have any data to support any of this? Sounds like a whole lot of nonsense
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:24 pm to
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I don't think that list is accurate.


And that ends my part in this thread.

Present census data that refutes your claim and it becomes "not accurate" suddenly.

Have a good day.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:25 pm to
Look at the Koch brothers philanthropic doings.


Seriously.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:26 pm to
That doesn't count. They are just doing that to avoid taxes. They are not doing it because it comes from their heart.

Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:26 pm to
The only thing that prevents neighborhoods from cycling is 2 factors:
Section 8 and convenience.

Neighborhoods that are out of the way for getting to work, shopping, entertainment, ect don't cycle in favor of farther out suburbs because they don't add any advantage for doing so. In Baton Rouge, think Broadmoor.

The other reason is Section 8. Section 8 dissuades the landowner from fixing up his property because section 8 tenets don't care. Section 8 tenets don't cycle out because they rarely get married or even have careers. Mostly because getting married means more assets. To many assets and you lose all of your benefits. Same with working. It is more advantageous to not work and be unwed raising multiple children than it is to be working entry level jobs. Section 8 also has a lot of hoops to jump through to get out of once a landlord is renting with it. Section 8 causes neighborhoods to enter "free-fall" and then leaves them in suspended animation absent exterior forces like a massive migration of gentrifiers or a huge depopulation event like Katrina.

Without section 8, easily abused entitlement programs. and government housing projects, those neighborhoods would naturally organically cycle as described. Government policy is disrupting the natural neighborhood cycle creating endemic. Decay and near permanent slums.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 2:30 pm
Posted by MorgusTheMagnificent
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:27 pm to
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some have too much money


How much exactly is too much?
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:28 pm to
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Look at the Koch brothers philanthropic doings.


The Koch Brothers do a lot of philanthropic things, including some support for the arts which I appreciate.

BUT, then they turn around and support candidates who will do everything they can to support big Wall Street.

So, the harm outweighs the good.

Their counterpart, George Soros, is far more consistent and he does not support exploitative candidates.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:29 pm to
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George Soros, is far more consistent and he does not support exploitative candidates.


Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by yoga girl
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:29 pm to
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That doesn't count. They are just doing that to avoid taxes. They are not doing it because it comes from their heart.


I didn't think about that. I thought you were supporting the conservative side on this?
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:29 pm to
So, yoga girl, do you know the difference between Bernie Sanders Jelly and Bernie Sanders Jam?
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