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re: Generator owners.... $14k and a 20 week wait???
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:42 pm to Hopeful Doc
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:42 pm to Hopeful Doc
Definitely look at the Cummings onan. When it’s running, you can barely hear it. You definitely can’t hear it from inside the house. You can get one less than 30kw that is liquid cooled. I think the next one down is 24-25kw. My 14k cost didn’t include the transfer switch as I had that already installed when I built my home. I was already set up for an easy install. All they had to do was set it down and hook it up.
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 6:47 pm
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:44 pm to offshoretrash
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Wait until you see the gas bill from running it. I just don't see how anyone can afford to run one more than a few hours.
3gph usage x 24hrs = 72 gallons a day.
72 x $3 = $216 a day to run on butane.
The 30kw Cummings I have runs off of my 500 gallon propane tank and can run 24/7 for a week before I need to fill it up again.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:55 pm to Slippy
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And why a 20 week lead time for install? I
errybody prepping for the 10 days of darkness.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 7:23 pm to offshoretrash
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72 x $3 = $216 a day to run on butane.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 7:42 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Literally the only thing on that list that isn't about paying someone else to do something is pouring the slab.
Or is that the joke?
You’re saving on all the markups and you run it like a GC who has the main purchase already done: generator and ATS.
If you hire a one-stop crew to do it all you will have a markup on the generator cost and the electrician and plumber installation.
A master plumber is needed to tie into the gas line and you need to pull the meter to de-energize the house for the electrical hookup.
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 4/5/21 at 7:58 pm to offshoretrash
Your numbers are not correct!!! Most home generators on propane use around 1.75 gph when running around 50 percent load which is common after startup. This 42 a day and if you purchase fuel off season it is usually around 2 per gallon so if you buy early had have a large tank you can run for 80 per day or 560 a week. This is still cheaper than a hotel room.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 8:53 pm to Slippy
Do it yourself. Purchase your own generator. Hire your own plumber and electrician $14k sounds insanely highly.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 8:59 pm to csorre1
Why in gods name do you want a 12 in thick slab?
Posted on 4/5/21 at 9:26 pm to Slippy
Subtle I may or may not have a mortgage brag
Posted on 4/5/21 at 9:33 pm to Slippy
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 9:55 pm to TakeAGander
I’m just going to buy a pair of 2kw Hondas and use them for fridge, freezer, TV and fans. Handy for quiet tailgating too. Whole-house generation is attractive but I do not really need it for suburban living in BR. I’ve made it 70 years without one.
That said, my wife wants one so who knows.
That said, my wife wants one so who knows.
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:05 pm to Slippy
I ended up doing solar and storage instead of a generator at my zombie apocalypse property. After pricing the generator and getting all the needed people out there to get it installed I decided it was worth it to spend more upfront but get a consistent return on power production while keeping the ability to go off grid.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:35 pm to offshoretrash
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Wait until you see the gas bill from running it. I just don't see how anyone can afford to run one more than a few hours. 3gph usage x 24hrs = 72 gallons a day. 72 x $3 = $216 a day to run on butane.
If a person can spend $12K+ to install a generator I would think they can afford $1,500 bucks to run it for a week maybe once a decade if we’re lucky. My longest outage in the last 20 years was 14 days, next longest was 4 days, I would have gladly paid 290 bucks a day for a fully powered house. The others have been just a few hours here and there.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:42 pm to Rize
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Ordered a 24kw Generac in November and it’s not in yet.
$8600 installed but I prepaid for wiring when I built my new house and a auto transfer switch.
This is almost my exact scenario.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 11:06 pm to Slippy
We have had a 22KW Generac for 4 years now. It was installed by a licensed electrician who is a Generac dealer for $7300 total. I had to get the propane company to bring a tank and install the line. The last extended outage of 9 days cost me $3 an hour for fuel. The unit hasn't given me any trouble at all, but I know folks that have had trouble with Generac units because of running them until the automatic low oil pressure switch kills the machine or not keeping the air intake free of leaves and getting into overheating. Almost all Generac units use oil and if you don't check it at least after 48 hours running you can get into trouble. We shut ours down every day for about an hour and make sure the oil is full and the air intake is clear. The oil is easy to change and air and oil filters are available from Amazon and maybe even a NAPA store.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 11:06 pm to EA6B
an installed gen set does need routine operation and maintenance. Onan recommends running once a month for 30 minutes
might want to check with power company to comply with there physical disconnect requirements. 1989 Puerto Rico had a dozen lineman fatalities after hurricane Hugo due to privately owned gen sets back feeding .
Posted on 4/5/21 at 11:43 pm to LSUAlum2001
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Do it yourself.
1. Buy the generator with ATS.
2. Pour the slab yourself.
3. Hire a plumber to connect the gas.
4. Hire an electrician to install the ATS to the main line
You can do 3&4 yourself
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:04 am to Trevaylin
I would think twice about installing a Generac.Check reviews on pissed consumer and Consumer Affairs.com,lots of complaints.I was all set to getting me one after Hurricane Laura but I heard several horror stories around my community about Generacs failing.Guy up the road had a brand new one that lasted a day and half and died.Another person had his fail after 15 minutes.People around here that put them in 4-5 years ago had good luck,the ones put in last year or two had them fail.Seems to me that Generac has cheapened their manufacturing or their quality control is poor.
I have 2 Honda 7000/5500 watts and parallel cable ordered,that will give me 11000 running watts.I’ll have to deal with gasoline but I would rather do that than spend that much money and deal with propane for a system I have no confidence in.I would blow a gasket if I spent $14,000 (quote I got) and the generator failed.
I have 2 Honda 7000/5500 watts and parallel cable ordered,that will give me 11000 running watts.I’ll have to deal with gasoline but I would rather do that than spend that much money and deal with propane for a system I have no confidence in.I would blow a gasket if I spent $14,000 (quote I got) and the generator failed.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:43 am to Cracker
It is being poured next to the slab for my 3 AC units and that slab is 12" thick. I'm a little OCD. And yes, I upvoted you. 
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 12:45 am
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:44 am to Slippy
14k generator, a pool and hot tub. Are you the 450k a year guy?
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