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re: Gen Z will end up more successful than millennials

Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:47 am to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:47 am to
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so true, I was a CivE in college and my dad was a GC, one of the last jobs I worked for him before graduating was an addition to and refurbishing of a sewer system for the town of Many, one of the tasks of the refurb was to pump out the lift station and change out the hardware of the lines leading in and out of the station , can't remember exactly how deep those tanks were but the suction pumps would leave about two feet of raw sewerage in the bottom, somebody had to go into the tank with a five gallon bucket tied to a rope and dip all of that out to get to the fittings, now I'm the "superintendent" and the owners son, guess who did the bucket duty? none of the laborers would get into the tank, I had on rubber boots that went about two inches shorter than the level of he sewerage in the tanks before I started dipping, so when the tank was emptied I'm covered in raw sewage from head to toe, boots full of it, and then I got to change out the fittings around the pipes, solidified my goal of learning to fly jets my dad made a "shitload" of money off of that job though


That shite smelled just like money to your dad!!!
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:49 am to
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Again I had alternative routes in HR or get an account degree but the pay raise was minimal and the work load tripled not worth it and something I’m not interested in doing. I know many people would choose that route but I’ve spent too much time in careers I’ve hated.


You want to compare the bottom of the barrel most expendable “professional” jobs to best case scenario trade jobs. You are truly an idiot, which is probably why you had that job in the first place.

Do whatever you want dude, $45/hour ain’t bad, and good for you if you like it, but learn to use some context. Holy shite
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:50 am to
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I did sales, I didn’t like it


Soft
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:51 am to
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That shite smelled just like money to your dad!!!


every night when I got home from work he'd want a full progress report for the day, it was about a two hour drive to get to the site to start at 7am, work all day, come home, clean up, now not every single day was like working in the tanks, but when I started to get a little frustrated he would remind me of how close we were to completion and how much we were going to net off the job, took a little of the stench/sting out
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:52 am to
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Soft



You have to be a big people person I am but I have my limits you have to be built for it.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21659 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:54 am to
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I 100% don’t want to be an accountant the most depressing unfulfilling job I’ve witnessed with a degree


I hear you. When I was in college, I did everything I could to avoid the accountant path and was adamant that I would not become a CPA. Ended up with a degree in finance and realized that dean's office were more interesting in pushing me through to graduate than provide actually guidance. They saw the C in my first accounting course, and the 3.7+ average in Finance and said keep pushing for the Finance degree, this is what you can earn.... Numbers looked great, and I was bought in and would even talk about the potential to family & friends.

As a am graduating, the roles that I am interning for in the banking industry start getting taken up by more senior people because there was a major layoff in the banking industry (at least in NO area) during the spring/summer before I graduated in the fall. Hit a major rut, ended up doing insurance work and hated my trajectory. Decided to go MBA route, and did some major self-reflection during Katrina and realized EVERYTHING I wanted to do required an accounting degree. Made sure I had the required courses to sit for the CPA without an accounting degree; and it was the best decision I ever made. I knew the public life was not going to be for me, but I also knew the best approach would be to put in my 5 years (ended up being 7) before switching to industry. Had my fair share of burnout on the way but had a plan in my head of the path I wanted to go.

It is not for everyone, and it appears you have realized that the accounting world is not your forte. Good for you, keep your head up and you will find your path.

With that said, you probably should not compare your future job to blue-collar workers. They will eat you up and spit you out, while making 1/2 to 2/3rd of what you do
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:54 am to
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You want to compare the bottom of the barrel most expendable “professional” jobs to best case scenario trade jobs. You are truly an idiot, which is probably why you had that job in the first place. Do whatever you want dude, $45/hour ain’t bad, and good for you if you like it, but learn to use some context. Holy shite



Wait I’m stupid for comparing entry level pay to what I’m going into


To mid level pay for a job of have years of experience in.


Are you listening to yourself?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:54 am to
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my dad made a "shitload" of money off of that job though


I have a friend who used to have a small pulpwood business in Heard County, Georgia (West Central Georgia). When his son was 16 he came to him and said "Daddy, I quit school". This was in January. My friend said "son, I am so happy to hear that...I have waited since the day you were born for you to become a man and learn the family business. I am so proud son. I will get you up at 430 in the morning and we will go to work together. Damn I am proud son".

The son worked alongside his dad through the middle of August. He told his dad "Daddy, I have thought about it and I am only about 3 months behind in school....if I go to summer school next summer I can graduate on time. I am thinking about going back to school". The Dad said "and leave all this pulp wood to your daddy"? to which the son replied "I can help on weekends and after school". The dad said "son, that ain't necessary....uou have seen what not having an education looks like and are fotunate enough to get one if you want it". That bot went on to get an engineering degree at Auburn and go to law school and is making some serious bank as a lawyer with a pipeline company. One summer of pulpwooding convinced him that school was a cake walk LOL....
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37946 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:57 am to
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With that said, you probably should not compare your future job to blue-collar workers. They will eat you up and spit you out, while making 1/2 to 2/3rd of what you do



exactly and OP is too stupid to understand that

OP is bitching because he was going to be sitting in the air conditioning making $40/hour and talking about how great the trades are all while not even knowing what the trades actually are

on top of that he has zero clue that 99& of those in the trades will never ever ever make $40/hour and no mention of working in the elements all day



TLDR: as mingo said...OP is a retard!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 12:00 pm to
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Gen Z will end up more successful than millennials


Well if they don't have something similar to the 2009 crash and Covid, this will all but guaranteed
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
1719 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 12:00 pm to
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Millennials were the last generation to be sold the college scam.
Scam?
Our kids all got degrees and are making good livings with them.
And one did learn to code - is making a great living in that area.
No problem if you get a degree in something which will empower you to earn a good living.
Or get certified and enjoy a blue collar career.
The point is to wisely figure what you want in your career and make it work for you.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21659 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 12:02 pm to
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I had on rubber boots that went about two inches shorter than the level of the sewerage in the tanks before I started dipping, so when the tank was emptied I'm covered in raw sewage from head to toe, boots full of it

Did you get to have the shots in the stomach?

Had a buddy doing some work at one of those sewage plants. Took a nice dip in because he didn't pay attention on how to properly secure his harness. Was fished out, thrown in the back of his own cab, and rushed to West Jeff to get the stomach shots...fyi he is deathly afraid of needles. 25 years later and it still comes up at least 2-3 times a year
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37946 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 12:05 pm to
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Wait I’m stupid for comparing entry level pay to what I’m going into


To mid level pay for a job of have years of experience in.


Are you listening to yourself?



are you listening to yourself?


1) what you are going into isn't the trades
2) you prolly don't even get that opportunity if you didn't have your degree and prior education. they aren't offering jobs that require nicet to just anyone so stop acting like its entry level. it may be entry for that specific role but its not an entry level position.

and stop calling it a trade, it isnt dumbass

and listen to yourself.....mid level pay of true trademan is not shite at mid career compared to mid level pay of anyone with a college degree


but hey lets compare tradesman to professional tradesman....

lets compare plumber to an mechanical engineer

lets compare hvac to a lawyer

lets compare an electrician to an electrical engineer

lets compare a rodbuster(does rebar for concrete) or a concrete finisher to a civil engineer

hell we can get real technical if you want, lets compare a directional driller(dont include per diem pay) to a doctor

lets compare the foreman to an accountant

lets compare on a pay per hour worked and get back to me.

but you want...you are too stupid to even understand what the trades are

you are going into an engineering tech job making 42/hour when you could have been in technical sales and made double that in half the hours....how smart do you really think you are?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102538 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Gen Z may be the last generation since they would rather beat off to an OF models feet than putting their bird in a warm twat.


True, though the lack of kids and a nagging wife will help them be more financially successful
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30396 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Zero government loans or funding should go to liberal arts degrees.


I would bet a million dollars that at the time you typed this, you could not accurately define a liberal arts degree.

FYI, biology, chemistry, math, and physics are all liberal arts.
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
1995 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 12:27 pm to
Yea, I meant to throw "potentially" in there. And of course type of degree and how much student loans are taken out play a big factor.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 12:32 pm to
economics is often a BA
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9763 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 12:56 pm to
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I’ve never met an accountant who liked their job and I worked on a few projects it’s just not my thing.


Also, an accountant. I have been working for almost 13 years and the job is gratifying.

Accounting is a people business and helping people navigate through various phases of their lives is the rewarding part of the business. The stories and the people behind the numbers are what make the work rewarding.

Sounds like you were not actually doing accounting work but more AP or AR processing which is depressing.

Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:11 pm to
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Sounds like you were not actually doing accounting work but more AP or AR processing which is depressing.


You are correct, I could go into accounting and get my CPA but it’s not my thing. Most people I know just jump firm to firm due to burn out.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37946 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:57 pm to
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biology, chemistry, math, and physics are all liberal arts.


depends on the focus, a BA in physics is not going to be as in depth but more broad and general in education, BS is opposite. The others are the same.

not all liberal arts degrees are good and not all are bad, same with bachelors of science, some good, some worthless

most people are not smart enough to know the difference....which might include you btw.
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