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re: Gen Z chick mad but she right.

Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:58 am to
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19595 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:58 am to
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Waahhh, welcome to the real world where mommy and daddy don't do everything for you.

This is the first time in US history a typical 30 year old is doing worse than their parents.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:21 am to
When the govt pumps money into the economy by the trillion, coaxes kids to go to college to study lesbian futon design for the price of a mortgage, car prices are like starter homes, and homes are a pipe dream - this is what you get. She's not wrong.

You can bash Gen Z and every other generation for idiosyncrasies but Gen Z has been screwed out of the American dream, for the most part. And that is trickling up to older generations too, once you have a problem like insane medical bills or something, you can pretty much forget starting over.

This state of affairs is how you get 150 million people telling the govt to "do something" and that's how you get socialism and the govt takes over everything.

You can thank Big Money, Private Equity, and Congress - which by the way is stacked with every generation. While 'young' members of Congress like AOC wear dresses saying 'tax the rich', she's rich, and she's voting for all the stuff that makes these problems worse. So are the old POS like Mitch McConnell.
Posted by BR92
Member since Apr 2021
1036 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:23 am to
Whiner, gain some skills and suck it up buttercup. The world doesn’t owe you a thing.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7940 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:28 am to
It wasn’t easy for any modern generation to get started, and it appears to be getting worse overtime. This is a major reason for birth rate declines in the United States. By the time a couple feels they can afford children they are pushing 30. This is a major problem for the future of the country as we know it.

Not sure what the answer is, but I know outsourcing work to other countries hasn’t helped. I do think it’s time as a country we start trying other strategies because we are slowly going in the wrong direction currently and we need to course correct this trend immediately.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
6968 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:28 am to
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Found our boomer/old Gen X'er


Nope. Try again. Millenial here.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6263 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:32 am to
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Stopped listening when she said people could live on their own at 40 hours a week 20 years ago. As someone who started working almost exactly 20 years ago, I know that is a complete lie.


Exactly. A majority of Gen X and early millennials didn’t start out having it made. I certainly recall living paycheck to paycheck starting out and struggling with a young family. Working in a profession sometimes putting in 70 hours a week for over twenty years has me in the position of being comfortable. The real world rarely works out that way… sure, I’ve made it easier for my kids to have a leg up on their futures, but they’ve made the right choices of getting degrees and not having to work menial jobs.

Too many unrealistic expectations these days.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
8281 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:55 am to
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When I was early 20s, I would always find a job working as a waitress because it paid more than something like Walmart. It was harder, but it paid better. This was early 2000s, and I was happy if I averaged $10 an hour after tips instead of the $5.15 minimum wage. At $10 an hour back then I was able to pay for a crappy apartment in Baton Rouge with a roommate, utilities, and food. I had a bit left over for beer money. My parents paid for my car, car insurance, and health insurance, and they were my emergency fund in the event of something major happening. It wasn’t possible to live independently with a Walmart job in the early 2000s. I’m not sure if it ever has been.


My wife put herself through college working as a waitress. She started at a Shoneys, which didn't provide the best tips, then leveraged her experience and moved to one of the better restaurants in town. She made pretty good money there.

Minimum wage was never intended to provide enough income to live comfortably on your own. If you are in a minimum wage, or even a lower wage job, there are some clear routes to improving your income:

- work hard, work smart, get a raise. Entry level Walmart employees don't make that much. Managers do alright.

- Leverage your experience to get a better paying job in similar company.

- Devise a plan to learn a better paying trade or profession and change careers. Tradesmen seem to be in short supply.

Few things are easy and it takes hard work and sacrifice to improve your station. For about three years, my wife lived in a dump trailer and drove an ancient Opal her dad paid $100 for. A board covered the whole in the floorboard, but it got her to work and school and home to visit the folks until things got better and she got a nice Celica. Delayed gratifaction is a valid concept.

Whining doesn't accomplish much.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 9:56 am
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
6365 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:08 am to
Maybe I missed it but who exactly is she talking about when she says “you”? Millennials? Gen X? I understand that it’s hard to make ends meet right now but again who is she blaming here?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42034 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:12 am to
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Back in the day, a non college educated person could usually work themselves into a middle class lifestyle


My grandfather did but not on 40 hours he hustled
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19206 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:27 am to
Yes things are very expensive but somebody needs to explain to these kids the concept of roommates. Nobody I knew had their own place when they were in their 20’s.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6306 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:19 am to
Feel bad for your girls their father couldn’t support or do more.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
6968 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:25 am to
Exactly, took me until about 35 to turn that corner of comfort. These kids expect much more way too early.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88878 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:29 am to
what a load of crap
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3876 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:40 am to
2 Things to note.

1. I started my career in IT in 1996 which was the hottest and most upcoming career field at that time. I could not afford to live on my own. I had 1 - 2 roommates for the better part of the next 3 - 4 years.

2. It was her woke generation that voted in the Democrats that killed the economy. Not mine.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18929 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:06 pm to
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I'm 37 years old and have never owned my own home. I have money but have never felt financially comfortable enough to buy real estate.



That's purely your fault. Life involves risks, being a pussy in life has nothing to do with previous generations.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30546 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:11 pm to
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“She should work harder”

- boomers


Ain't my problem. I had crap jobs and shite pay when I was her age and didn't get on my phone to bitch. Most people had crap jobs at that age. Then I graduated high school with honors, went to college, and got a decent job. I worked graveyard at the paper mill in Naheola, AL as a coal handler every break to make extra money. Maybe she should try that. Working at Wal-mart ain't hard. You walk around and do remedial bullshite. Takes no intelligence whatsoever. It's braindead work.

Get educated. And believe it or not, you can get educated for less than $300,000 in student loans. You don't have to go to an expensive college. Just go to a decent college. The college you go to will maybe matter in only your first job. Nobody cares after that. They care about your job experience. Yes, work hard, be good at your job, make yourself irreplaceable. That's how it works.

Make self-righteous, passive aggressive posts, or you can tell her to go better her own situation.

- not a boomer (because you people don't apparently know the age range of boomers. My 81 year old dad is a boomer. I'm not.)
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18929 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:12 pm to
Willing to bet that if somebody broke down their incomes and spending habits it would be pretty easy to figure out that it isn't that they don't earn enough but spend too much on creature comforts they "need". That is overwhelmingly the case with younger adults now, they are spending hundreds of dollars a month on subscriptions and don't even realize it. Extremely wasteful, financially irresponsible behavior is their own fault but they don't believe in personal accountability either.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3788 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:27 pm to
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each has two roommates just to get by.

WTF is this?

And what's with all these kids who think they knew what was happening 20, or 40 years ago?

When I graduated high school in the early 80s, we had just gone through a period of 10 years when the inflation rate AVERAGED 8.7%. Compare that to the average inflation rate over the last 4 years of 4.6%.

10 years of 8.7% and people are freaking out today over 4 years of 4.6%.

It took a long time for wages to catch up. Not only did I have to have 2-3 roommates, I had to have 2-3 jobs. There were times I couldn't afford a telephone line, much less the internet and all the subscriptions therein if they had even been available.

I got no time to watch crying kids on the internet looking for pity. Get some roommates, and get another job. That's what I did 40 years ago.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2282 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:29 pm to
She's wrong. 20 years ago, I couldn't live on my own on a Walmart associate salary. Would have needed a roommate to split costs with back then, just like now. Think minimum wage here was $5.55 or so back then.
Posted by JackDempsey
Lake Charles
Member since May 2023
664 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:33 pm to
She probably buys Starbucks every morning.

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