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re: Gen contractor says the constr. economy is going to tank because his workers got deported
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:20 pm to ticklechain
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:20 pm to ticklechain
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Lol. No one in the trades drug test. I know people that have a contract at an afb, they don't even drug test. Background, yes. No whizz quiz.
I know farmers who hire crackheads seasonally to drive combines and grain trucks and actually buy them crack or meth to take so they stay awake and work 20 hours to beat the rain
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:23 pm to deltaland
Lmao
Have you seen the newest crop of Americans that would be in the age range for beginning a trade??
Have you seen the newest crop of Americans that would be in the age range for beginning a trade??
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:24 pm to Underteaux
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They’ve gone after legal residents as well
provide us examples or log out.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:29 pm to Klark Kent
Just as a quick reset for the conversation, let’s add some math to this debate as I am beginning to sense entirely too much sympathy in this thread for illegal immigrants.
fairus.org: The Financial Burden of Illegal Immigration
since I doubt most of you will take the time to open the link, I’ll borrow the figures fairus.org uses to summarize:
Total Government Expenditures on Illegal Aliens:
Total Federal Expenditures: $66,449,136,000
+ Total State Expenditures: $115,608,730,000
= $182,057,865,000
Total Tax Contributions from Illegal Aliens:
Total Federal Taxes Paid: $16,219,495,000
+ Total State Taxes Paid: $15,172,140,000
= $31,391,635,000
So, Total Tax Burden of Illegal Aliens:
$182,057,865, 000 total expenditures on illegal aliens
- $31,391,635,000 total tax contributions from illegal aliens
= $150,666,230,000
$150 billion dollars in 2023.
Now, explain to me how illegal immigrants are a net positive for our economy. What do they contribute that offsets $150 billion?
And that’s 2023. We let in another 3-5 million illegal aliens in 2024. This problem will only continue to snowball. And that’s just the economics. Seriously, consider what you are saddling the next generations of Americans with; by just throwing your hands up, and saying, “our blueberry prices and sheetrock installation are gonna skyrocket”.
Not to mention the impact on our medical industry, impact on housing availability, impact on public schools, etc. Not to mention the vast vast majority of these people despise us, our culture, and our history. They have no intention to integrate into our society. They only want to take and stick their hands out for tax payer funded assistance.
It’s a lazy and ignorant argument proving you either have an ulterior motive to support illegal immigration or you’re a brainwashed sheep. It’s anti-American.
fairus.org: The Financial Burden of Illegal Immigration
since I doubt most of you will take the time to open the link, I’ll borrow the figures fairus.org uses to summarize:
Total Government Expenditures on Illegal Aliens:
Total Federal Expenditures: $66,449,136,000
+ Total State Expenditures: $115,608,730,000
= $182,057,865,000
Total Tax Contributions from Illegal Aliens:
Total Federal Taxes Paid: $16,219,495,000
+ Total State Taxes Paid: $15,172,140,000
= $31,391,635,000
So, Total Tax Burden of Illegal Aliens:
$182,057,865, 000 total expenditures on illegal aliens
- $31,391,635,000 total tax contributions from illegal aliens
= $150,666,230,000
$150 billion dollars in 2023.
Now, explain to me how illegal immigrants are a net positive for our economy. What do they contribute that offsets $150 billion?
And that’s 2023. We let in another 3-5 million illegal aliens in 2024. This problem will only continue to snowball. And that’s just the economics. Seriously, consider what you are saddling the next generations of Americans with; by just throwing your hands up, and saying, “our blueberry prices and sheetrock installation are gonna skyrocket”.
Not to mention the impact on our medical industry, impact on housing availability, impact on public schools, etc. Not to mention the vast vast majority of these people despise us, our culture, and our history. They have no intention to integrate into our society. They only want to take and stick their hands out for tax payer funded assistance.
It’s a lazy and ignorant argument proving you either have an ulterior motive to support illegal immigration or you’re a brainwashed sheep. It’s anti-American.
This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:32 pm to deltaland
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This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:56 pm to RaoulDuke504
Work visas are not difficult to get.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:39 pm to RaoulDuke504
If the gov put huge fines on employers for hiring illegals, the illegal immigration problem would solve itself.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:47 pm to Harry Morgan
A business model dependent on illegal things is a flawed business model. Don't complain that you aren't allowed to break the law anymore.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:51 pm to Dixie2023
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So are others going to line up to do the work? Good they are getting illegals out, but are the ones working the high hanging fruit? You don’t see Americans lining up to do physical work.
So here’s how this worked for hundreds of years. In early adulthood you went to work for someone and they taught you a trade. Somewhere around your late 30s early 40s you broke off on your own and started working for yourself while training the next generation.
But somewhere along the way we stopped doing that training part because we found it would be cheaper to hire cheap arse labor with a language barrier.
So how about we just go back to what worked for thousands of years.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:53 pm to notiger1997
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Sure. Find people who do this work who will show up for work daily and can pass a drug test
I've tried to explain this to folks who I thought have common sense.
They have no idea that you just can't easily find folks to work hard in the heat, no matter how much you pay them.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:59 pm to LNCHBOX
Your an idiot. If youve ever worled or owned a construction business. Then you wouldn't mock this statement. In this line of work 90% of the guys are crackheads or felons or both. Dont show up half the time, live paycheck to paycheck. You 1099 these guys and get a tax break for hiring the felons etc
I figured out how to get around not hiring illegals and still be abke to hire people that would love to do these jobs and show up everyday, and pass drug test. Hire them from halfway houses. Bam
I figured out how to get around not hiring illegals and still be abke to hire people that would love to do these jobs and show up everyday, and pass drug test. Hire them from halfway houses. Bam
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:16 pm to HattiesburgTiger5439
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Your an idiot
quote:
by HattiesburgTiger5439
This is why I’ll never quit this site. Too good
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:26 pm to HattiesburgTiger5439
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Your an idiot. If youve ever worled or owned a construction business
We just need more HattiesburgTiger5439s, and we’d have all the blue-collar manual labor this country needs
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:42 pm to RaoulDuke504
Look to his competition that will get all the jobs he won't be able to do.
During Trumps first term they raided and detained Peco foods in MS's labor causing them to be sitting on farm after farm of chickens ready for processing. Rather than just destroy them they sold them to Tyson and Koch foods for pennies on the dollar who then hauled them to their plants to be processed by their own illegals.
During Trumps first term they raided and detained Peco foods in MS's labor causing them to be sitting on farm after farm of chickens ready for processing. Rather than just destroy them they sold them to Tyson and Koch foods for pennies on the dollar who then hauled them to their plants to be processed by their own illegals.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:45 pm to HattiesburgTiger5439
frick, son. Your English is shite.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:47 pm to RaoulDuke504
They busted a big site in NOLA the other day. The timetables on these projects are going to increase. A building that used to take 2 years to build can now be built in 8 months. It's about to back to 2 years.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:48 pm to Spaniard
CSB
but that’s still not great enough justification to willingly allow illegal aliens through our borders.
but that’s still not great enough justification to willingly allow illegal aliens through our borders.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:48 pm to RaoulDuke504
Yep you exploited 3rd world countries and now your pissed
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