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re: Gavin McInnes: 5 Reasons Not to Ban the Confederate Flag
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:39 pm to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:39 pm to Tuscaloosa
quote:
You realize I have a bachelors and a masters in history - from a southern University that was burned to the ground by the Union Army, and teach history for a living...
And even with that said, you are still so wrong.
People wonder why our schools are so screwed up?
I give you Tuscaloosa.
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:42 pm to BigOrangeBri
quote:
If you think those slaves played a role in the building of that company then you're delusional.
You know, those window cleaners at NASA helped put a man on the moon.
Everybody knows they did even Wachoiva, you are the one who is delusional. This is the type of man you will teach your children to be lying pieces of shite like there shitty arse father!? You are the scum of the earth. There is nothing worst than a fricking liar. Sleep tight you piece of shite.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:45 pm to Bushmaster
quote:
You never knew a slave nor did your mom or your moms mom but keep up the good fight.
Invest in hair weave and oversized rim manufacturers.
It seems to me you never sat in an English class, but keep up to poor trailer trash grammar your shitty education has provide you.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:46 pm to Pepperidge
quote:
And even with that said, you are still so wrong.
People wonder why our schools are so screwed up?
I give you Tuscaloosa.
What exactly was I wrong about? What part of what I said was factually incorrect?
I'm eagerly waiting for your response and rebuttal.
Maybe watch the video in the OP all the way through and somehow come up with a defense for anything he said. He pretty much missed on everything and added a bunch of irrelevant filler like Lincoln being racist - to support his argument that the flag should stay.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:01 pm to StrongSafety
quote:
Secondly, after further research today, I'm not sure if the holocaust was worse than the transcontential slave trade and the shackling of the black diaspora across the world. It might be the westerns biggest (diversity) accomplishment and greatest sin
What?
And now you've lost it. There was no such thing as that which you are even talking about. Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade was a real thing, and it happened over the course of 3 centuries and accounted for 12 million Africans transported. No clue as to what happened after they were transported, but I dont assume they were transported to be killed, because then whats the point of having a slave at all? In comparison, the Holocaust was the DEATH of 6 million jews in ]4 YEARS[/u], and they were segregated solely for the purpose of their extinction. People like you need to chill out, because you're getting yourself so worked up that you're sounding delusional.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:02 pm to Tuscaloosa
Straight from the Southern Commissioners' mouths:
Address of William Harris of Mississippi to the state of Georgia
10 references to slavery:
LINK
Jacob Thompson address to North Carolina
8 references to slavery:
LINK
John McQueen of South Carolina's address to Texas
2 references to slavery:
LINK
George Williams of Louisiana to the state of Texas
11 references to slavery:
LINK
John Sanford of Georgia to the state of Texas
2 references to slavery:
LINK
Luther Glenn of Georgia to the state of Missori
13 references to slavery:
LINK
A.H. Handy of Mississippi to the state of Maryland
5 references to slavery:
LINK
Alabama's government officials to the state of Delaware
25 references to slavery:
LINK
James Martin Calhoun of Alabama to the state of Texas
11 references to slavery:
LINK
Fulton Anderson of Mississippi to the state of Virginia
22 references to slavery:
LINK
Henry Benning of Georgia to the state of Virginia
64 references to slavery:
LINK
John Preston of South Carolina to the state of Virginia
35 references to slavery:
LINK
Alexander Stephens of Georgia to the state of Virginia
2 references to slavery:
LINK
J.L.M Curry of Alabama to the governor of Maryland
19 references to slavery:
LINK
Stephen Hale of Alabama to the state of Kentucky
28 references to slavery:
LINK
John Shorter of Alabama to the state of Georgia
10 references to slavery:
LINK
Isham Graham & Robert H. Smith of Alabama to the state of North Carolina
26 references to slavery:
LINK
How anyone can deny that the fight for slavery was the primary cause of the Civil War is beyond me.
Address of William Harris of Mississippi to the state of Georgia
10 references to slavery:
LINK
Jacob Thompson address to North Carolina
8 references to slavery:
LINK
John McQueen of South Carolina's address to Texas
2 references to slavery:
LINK
George Williams of Louisiana to the state of Texas
11 references to slavery:
LINK
John Sanford of Georgia to the state of Texas
2 references to slavery:
LINK
Luther Glenn of Georgia to the state of Missori
13 references to slavery:
LINK
A.H. Handy of Mississippi to the state of Maryland
5 references to slavery:
LINK
Alabama's government officials to the state of Delaware
25 references to slavery:
LINK
James Martin Calhoun of Alabama to the state of Texas
11 references to slavery:
LINK
Fulton Anderson of Mississippi to the state of Virginia
22 references to slavery:
LINK
Henry Benning of Georgia to the state of Virginia
64 references to slavery:
LINK
John Preston of South Carolina to the state of Virginia
35 references to slavery:
LINK
Alexander Stephens of Georgia to the state of Virginia
2 references to slavery:
LINK
J.L.M Curry of Alabama to the governor of Maryland
19 references to slavery:
LINK
Stephen Hale of Alabama to the state of Kentucky
28 references to slavery:
LINK
John Shorter of Alabama to the state of Georgia
10 references to slavery:
LINK
Isham Graham & Robert H. Smith of Alabama to the state of North Carolina
26 references to slavery:
LINK
How anyone can deny that the fight for slavery was the primary cause of the Civil War is beyond me.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:12 pm to Tuscaloosa
quote:
Straight from the Southern Commissioners' mouths:
Address of William Harris of Mississippi to the state of Georgia
10 references to slavery:
LINK
Jacob Thompson address to North Carolina
8 references to slavery:
LINK
John McQueen of South Carolina's address to Texas
2 references to slavery:
LINK
George Williams of Louisiana to the state of Texas
11 references to slavery:
LINK
John Sanford of Georgia to the state of Texas
2 references to slavery:
LINK
Luther Glenn of Georgia to the state of Missori
13 references to slavery:
LINK
A.H. Handy of Mississippi to the state of Maryland
5 references to slavery:
LINK
Alabama's government officials to the state of Delaware
25 references to slavery:
LINK
James Martin Calhoun of Alabama to the state of Texas
11 references to slavery:
LINK
Fulton Anderson of Mississippi to the state of Virginia
22 references to slavery:
LINK
Henry Benning of Georgia to the state of Virginia
64 references to slavery:
LINK
John Preston of South Carolina to the state of Virginia
35 references to slavery:
LINK
Alexander Stephens of Georgia to the state of Virginia
2 references to slavery:
LINK
J.L.M Curry of Alabama to the governor of Maryland
19 references to slavery:
LINK
Stephen Hale of Alabama to the state of Kentucky
28 references to slavery:
LINK
John Shorter of Alabama to the state of Georgia
10 references to slavery:
LINK
Isham Graham & Robert H. Smith of Alabama to the state of North Carolina
26 references to slavery:
LINK
How anyone can deny that the fight for slavery was the primary cause of the Civil War is beyond me.
You mean not one mention of 'states rights'?
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:16 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
quote:
Everybody knows they did even Wachoiva, you are the one who is delusional. This is the type of man you will teach your children to be lying pieces of shite like there shitty arse father!? You are the scum of the earth. There is nothing worst than a fricking liar. Sleep tight you piece of shite.
Just because they admitted slaves were involved in their past doesn't mean they helped build the company. If this is your leg to stand on for the "slaves built america" argument then it's not a strong one.
You sound angry, maybe you should go burn down an innocent persons business.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:17 pm to sugar71
quote:
You mean not one mention of 'states rights'?
Well, to be fair - the overall message was about states' rights... as it relates to being able to own slaves.
People didn't really start arguing that it didn't have anything to do with slavery until much, much later - and we can obviously see by reading the Commissioners' pleas for secession that they are wrong.
The outcry for secession at the time was based almost entirely around keeping the right to own slaves.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:22 pm to sugar71
quote:
You mean not one mention of 'states rights'?
states' rights.. to own slaves.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:24 pm to Pepperidge
quote:
And even with that said, you are still so wrong.
People wonder why our schools are so screwed up?
I give you Tuscaloosa.
Still waiting on this guy to respond.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:26 pm to Taurus
quote:
You're the one who doesn't know shite about history. And I already pointed out just one little factoid to rebut you. I have more...
And this guy.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:37 pm to Tuscaloosa
quote:
Well, to be fair - the overall message was about states' rights... as it relates to being able to own slaves.
People didn't really start arguing that it didn't have anything to do with slavery until much, much later - and we can obviously see by reading the Commissioners' pleas for secession that they are wrong.
Point well taken.
The Radical Republicans wanted to harshly punish the Southern military & political leaders with death, land confiscation, etc.....
" Treason must be made odious & traitors must be punished & impoverished....their social power must be destroyed . If not they will maintain an ascendency ....and when traitors become numerous treason becomes respectable".
Treason has surely become respectable in the South post Civil War.
Not calling for barbarity or a bloodbath ,but do you feel the Union was too magnanimous after the war?
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:37 pm to thibodauxtigah
Here's another piece debunking McInnes' claim that the Civil War didn't have anything to do with slavery.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:48 pm to sugar71
quote:
Not calling for barbarity or a bloodbath ,but do you feel the Union was too magnanimous after the war?
I think that's a great question that opens up a lot of possible discussion.
A lot of people feel like post-war reconstruction was harsh on southerners... and to an extent, that may be true. However, I think when you compare the way the Southern leaders were treated to the standard of those throughout the rest of history - they were treated very, very well. I definitely think an argument can be made that the Union leaders were too soft on the secessionists following the war.
Realistically, it only took about a decade following the war for those southern political leaders to re-establish themselves in the political spectrum fairly successfully.
Another difference that probably reduced the potential repercussions was that for the most part, there wasn't continued large scale rebellion and fighting during reconstruction. Most of the Confederate generals and political leaders were tired of the bloodshed and were more than willing to put it behind them and try to rebuild their lives.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:55 pm to bucknut
quote:
You realize he has a bachelor's degree in history.
It's my fault for not looking it up earlier, but this isn't true.
He has an English degree. I can't find any evidence of him having a degree in History.
And here is an article he wrote in which he references his English degree and goes on a tirade about how everything he learned while earning that English degree was a lie:
LINK
So, again - I'm not sure why we're putting any credence in what a Canadian - who got his English degree from a school in Montreal, Canada and claims everything he learned while pursuing that degree was a lie - has to say about American History as it relates to the Civil War.
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 12:09 am
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:28 am to thibodauxtigah
solid video 
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:32 am to hawgfaninc
quote:
solid video
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:41 am to Tuscaloosa
I keep waiting for you to make a good point. You don't really seem to know as much about history as you are claiming. It's like you e read one book and keep referencing it over and over again.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:43 am to Tuscaloosa
quote:
Straight from the Southern Commissioners' mouths:
quote:
How anyone can deny that the fight for slavery was the primary cause of the Civil War is beyond me.
Obviously the people in power wanted to preserve slavery.
The poor common men fighting for the Confederacy were fighting to protect their home. Many of them hadn't ever seen a slave. That's the people Southerner's think about when they bring up Southern pride.
Of course there's an extremely small fraction (remember 330+ million people live in the US) who use that history as a means to their twisted white supremacy views.
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