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re: Gavin McInnes: 5 Reasons Not to Ban the Confederate Flag

Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by BigOrangeBri
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:45 pm to


Just fly this one. Most are ignorant to it as it hasn't been hyped as a hate symbol by the racebaiters and media.

Ban the American flag since it represents the systematic killing of an entire race and then forcing the remainder onto reservations against their will.

Take Washington and Jefferson of currency, they both owned slaves.

Over reactionary stupid people are stupid.
Posted by fleaux
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:46 pm to
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I want to know so many people care so much about issues that have no impact on them or almost anyone else.


I really hope you're talking about people in Seattle or Austin complaining about a flag in South Carolina
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:48 pm to
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You realize he has a bachelor's degree in history.




yea so does a bunch of other dumb mother frickers who couldn't hack it with a real major.
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:57 pm to
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You do know the Confederate battle flag is incorporated into 4 or 5 state flags, correct? So, in a sense, it is still flown over government buildings today.

That's not the point though. My point was to show how ignorant your stance on it not being a part of Southern culture prior to the civil rights movement is.


Aside from Mississippi, can you give some examples of states that flew the confederate battle flag as we know it before the civil rights movement? I'm genuinely interested.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:05 pm to
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This country got its start by using slave labor, but 95% or more of what this country is today and the infrastructure it operates on was built by free blacks, European immigrants, Latin American immigrants, and American citizens.



Nothing pisses me off more than a mother fricker who tries to marginalize how much those who owned slaves benefited. These are just a few companies who benefited from slavery.

Aetna, Inc.
JPMorgan Chase
New York Life
Wachovia Corporation
CSX
AIG
Brooks Brothers



Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:06 pm to
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I doubt any of you liberals will watch this short video.

There are a total of like 5 posters on this entire website that can be considered liberal
Posted by fleaux
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:07 pm to
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Nothing pisses me off more than a mother fricker who tries to marginalize how much those who owned slaves benefited. These are just a few companies who benefited from slavery.

Aetna, Inc. JPMorgan Chase New York Life Wachovia Corporation CSX AIG Brooks Brothers


You forgot FuBu and KFC, dumbass
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:07 pm to
It is very Un American to ban any symbol.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:07 pm to
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Aside from Mississippi, can you give some examples of states that flew the confederate battle flag as we know it before the civil rights movement? I'm genuinely interested.


If you're interested, look it up. I'm sure you can find something about the battle flag flying above local government buildings prior to 1960.

Once again, your assertion that the flag is only used to display racism is ignorant. The use of the flag as a part of modern state flags and use by the military well after the CRM prove it.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:09 pm to
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You forgot FuBu and KFC, dumbass




oh you mad
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12858 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:10 pm to
Lol, Wachovia wasn't established until years after the Civil War
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:10 pm to
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If you're interested, look it up. I'm sure you can find something about the battle flag flying above local government buildings prior to 1960.


I didn't say before 1960. I said before the civil rights movement. Can you give some examples? You claim I am ignorant and that states flew the flag before the civil rights movement, so it seems the onus is on you to provide examples.

quote:

well after the CRM


After, as in not before?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:13 pm to
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OK, Mr. History


Do you realize you just agreed with about half of the points I made? The guy you're defending was the one who said Lincoln was a racist, which has absolutely nothing to do with the flag argument.

I also pointed out that the Charleston shooter has nothing to do with this argument. The author of the video was the one who brought him up as a part of his defense of the flag, not me.

I feel like you didn't watch the whole video and got my arguments mixed up with his.

Anything else you want to school me on? TIA.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 9:17 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:15 pm to
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quote:
quote: You realize he has a bachelor's degree in history. You realize I have a bachelors and a masters in history - from a southern University that was burned to the ground by the Union Army, and teach history for a living...


That makes you suspect , you have been way to indroctonated by our current politically correct education system.




Fair enough
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:18 pm to
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Lol, Wachovia wasn't established until years after the Civil War



LOL are you trying to argue what I am saying isn't true?

1. Its public record
2. Wachovia admitted
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52678 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:19 pm to
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I didn't say before 1960. I said before the civil rights movement. Can you give some examples? You claim I am ignorant and that states flew the flag before the civil rights movement, so it seems the onus is on you to provide examples.


I don't need to provide anything. Anyone with any understanding of history knows the Southern states flew the battle flag well before the Civil rights movement ever started.

You tried to claim it only became popular during the movement, which is just plain wrong. Prior to the movement it was used as a symbol against an oppressive federal government.


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After, as in not before?


Seriously, how dumb are you? You're trying to argue that the battle flag is only used as a symbol of racism. I've shown that's not the case with facts about State governments and the military incorporating it into their flags and uniforms before, during, and even after the civil rights movement.
Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:20 pm to
Here's an example. This was Georgia's state flag was some variation of this flag from it's inception until 1956.


In 1954 the SCOTUS decides in Brown v. Board of Education that segregation is unconstitutional.

In 1955 the Feds say that public busses and trains should be desegregated.

In 1956 a defiant Georgia makes this their new state flag:
Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:21 pm to
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I don't need to provide anything. Anyone with any understanding of history knows the Southern states flew the battle flag well before the Civil rights movement ever started.


Yet you don't have any examples? I know about Mississippi.
Posted by fleaux
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Member since Aug 2012
8741 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:21 pm to
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oh you mad


Wrong again, guess you didn't get the reference
Posted by fleaux
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Member since Aug 2012
8741 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

oh you mad


Wrong again, guess you didn't get the reference
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