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re: Fusion question - smart guys help appreciated

Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:31 pm to
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You have to have a base plate of pre-famulated amulite surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings are in a direct line with the panametric fan. If you don’t, the main winding of the normal lotus-o-delta type placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots of the stator will not stabilize. It’s pretty simple

Don't forget the headlight fluid and Flux capacitor.
Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13358 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:16 pm to
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But you have to get rid of that pesky radioactive waste. I say shoot it off into space.



I say store it on the moon, you know, like in Space 1999.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:10 pm to
World-record fusion experiment produced even more energy than expected


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Quote: In specific terms, the lasers put in 2.05 megajoules of energy and the fusion reaction released 3.15 megajoules. That’s even better than leaked reports suggested (https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/12/breakthrough-fusion-power-announcement-expected-tomorrow-heres-what-it-means/). The team at t he Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory spent the last week deciphering the data to determine the exact results. To produce the 2.05-megajoule shot, the laser system required 300 megajoules of power, Kim Budil, director of LLNL, said in a press conference today.


Not sure how they produced any extra energy.
Looks like they are at -296.85 megajoules for the reaction.
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 10:17 pm
Posted by FtheNWO
Member since Nov 2021
223 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 12:59 am to
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We can get unlimited, safe power from putting atoms together, but we get nuclear bombs when we split them. So we get energy from putting them together and breaking them apart?
What am I missing?


Both fission and fusion convert a small amount of mass to energy. E=mC^2
Plug the mass(m) lost into that equation to find the energy(E) released. Hiroshima bomb converted less than a gram of mass.

Our sun converts millions of tons of mass to energy every second, so the sun is losing mass all the time.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:16 am to
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Hiroshima bomb converted less than a gram of mass.


In the 40's. Damn shame I can't power my boat for a bazillion miles on this stuff by now.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4415 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:50 am to
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So we get energy from putting them together and breaking them apart? What am I missing?

Different kinds of atoms. Big ones give off energy when you break them apart. Little ones give off energy when you mush them together.
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 1:56 am
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5907 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 2:19 am to



two issues. . 1. the unlimited energy potential of fusion does not square with the first law of physics.
2. where does the hydrogen come from in the fusion process. Is the process to make green h2 included in the balance
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 2:59 am to
A guy has an apartment and a lot of stuff. He meets a girl with an apartment and a lot of stuff. They move in together, but they don’t have room for all of their stuff, so they hold a garage sale. We profit by getting all of this excess stuff for a low price.
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:17 am to
All it means is that in 20 years all electric cars plugged into the grid is a possibility.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10145 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:23 am to
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All it means is that in 20 years all electric cars plugged into the grid is a possibility.

That's pretty optimistic.

I will not be happy unless gravitational wave research finds a way to cancel gravity and my all electric car can fly. What ya think? 10 years or so?

Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48929 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:00 am to
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but we get nuclear bombs when we split them. So we get energy from putting them together and breaking them apart?
What am I missing?


There are both fission and fusion bombs, WW2 bombs where fission, modern weapons are fusion.( they are both actually) It takes a fission device to get the parameters to start a fusion reaction. It is an uncontrolled fusion reaction. The rub is starting a controlled fusion reaction without using a Fatman type trigger, containing it to be of any use besides melting a city......and using less energy than it takes to start and contain.
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 4:01 am
Posted by Teton Tiger
Somewhere between here and there.
Member since Mar 2005
2994 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:21 am to
If I tell you then everyone would know. Sometimes it’s best I don’t say anything.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124255 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:26 am to
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You have to have a base plate of pre-famulated amulite surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings are in a direct line with the panametric fan. If you don’t, the main winding of the normal lotus-o-delta type placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots of the stator will not stabilize.



But how would you prevent fumbling in the ambifacient lunar waneshaft?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25644 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:47 am to
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So we get energy from putting them together and breaking them apart?


On an elementary level the only thing you are missing is "them" in this case is not the same thing.

In the case of fusion you are combining two nuclei of atoms with low atomic weights which releases energy and in the case of fission you are splitting two nuclei of atoms with much higher atomic weights. You are using two different types of "fuel" that release energy in two different situations.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 7:58 am to
It’s like putting a big girl in yoga pants. Something’s got to give.
Posted by junior
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2005
2249 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 6:31 am to
Guys, thanks for all the BS and the possibly educating responses. The OT delivers yet again. And yes, I was wondering about the perpetual motion thing


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