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Fusion question - smart guys help appreciated

Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:51 pm
Posted by junior
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:51 pm
We can get unlimited, safe power from putting atoms together, but we get nuclear bombs when we split them. So we get energy from putting them together and breaking them apart?
What am I missing?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41546 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:53 pm to
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smart guys help appreciated

Whelp, I’m out.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
9677 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:54 pm to
We now have the ability to fuse a trailer to a boat to form a trailer boat.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
8143 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:54 pm to
You think the OT is filled with nuclear scientists?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63885 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:55 pm to
Nuclear power is the future, always has been.

But you have to get rid of that pesky radioactive waste. I say shoot it off into space.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120179 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:55 pm to
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What am I missing?


A lot apparently
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120179 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:56 pm to
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But you have to get rid of that pesky radioactive waste


Nice thing about fusion is there is negligible waste
Posted by junior
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2005
2245 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:56 pm to
There are some VERY smart people here. There are tons of people who think they are.
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
Member since Sep 2020
9362 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:58 pm to
You have to have a base plate of pre-famulated amulite surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings are in a direct line with the panametric fan. If you don’t, the main winding of the normal lotus-o-delta type placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots of the stator will not stabilize. It’s pretty simple
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:58 pm to
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You have to have a base plate of pre-famulated amulite surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings are in a direct line with the panametric fan. If you don’t, the main winding of the normal lotus-o-delta type placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots of the stator will not stabilize. It’s pretty simple


Can't find any errors here.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14661 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:59 pm to
Has to do with the size of the atom. For atoms larger than iron, you gain energy by splitting the nuclei. For atoms smaller than iron it's the other way around.
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2300 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:00 pm to
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You have to have a base plate of pre-famulated amulite surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings are in a direct line with the panametric fan. If you don’t, the main winding of the normal lotus-o-delta type placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots of the stator will not stabilize. It’s pretty simple


What he said…..
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
54823 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:00 pm to
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We can get unlimited, safe power from putting atoms together, but we get nuclear bombs when we split them
The energy is not unlimited and we get more powerful bombs when we fuse Hydrogen together.
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What am I missing?


The basics.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9292 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:01 pm to
Fusion is exothermic (releases energy) for light elements and endothermic (absorbs energy) for heavy elements.

Fission is the opposite - it is endothermic for light elements and exothermic for heavy elements.

Put another way - anything lighter than iron will release energy during fusion and absorb energy during fission. Anything heavier than iron will absorb energy during fusion and release energy during fission.

ETA: Elements with atomic masses from ~30 (phosphorus) to ~90 (zirconium) are basically in the Goldilocks zone where the nuclear attractive force is roughly equal to the electromagnetic repulsive force, thus the elements are relatively stable.
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 6:12 pm
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18895 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:01 pm to
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But you have to get rid of that pesky radioactive waste. I say shoot it off into space.


This shite right here is how you get the little green men to show up and kill all of us. How about we don't shoot radioactive waste at them?
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14265 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:02 pm to
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We can get unlimited, safe power


Here's the part you're missing. We can't do this.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35000 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:02 pm to
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What am I missing?


The touch of a woman.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2100 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:03 pm to
I think Chicken needs to create verified Blue Egg checks so we can separate the smart responses from the smartass responses I am sure this thread will be filled with.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7573 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:03 pm to
When you push two Hydrogen atoms together to form Helium, they get real hot, it takes the gravitational force and density of a star at its core to make that reaction happen.

Making that happen on Earth, spending less energy on the equipment to force the fusion than the energy created at the point fusion is a game-changer.

Did I get that right?
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:04 pm to
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Fusion is exothermic (releases energy) for light elements and endothermic (absorbs energy) for heavy elements. Fission is the opposite - it is endothermic for light elements and exothermic for heavy elements.


It is my understanding that the tip over point on the periodic table is iron. (Iron synthesis being endothermic.) Hence, the reason why iron formation is the death spiral for main sequence stars.
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