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re: Frustrated job applicant changes 1 letter on his resume, responses pour in

Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:01 am to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:01 am to
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Oh, and I don't buy this story for a second. Like, not even a little bit


Zamora is a Hispanic name as well. It's not like he changed it to read 'Joe Smith'.

To me, that's what negates the whole premise of this little fable.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:04 am to
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To me, that's what negates the whole premise of this little fable.



Not really. What if a guy is named "John Bertucci" as opposed to "Giovanni Bertucci"?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87246 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:06 am to
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Not really. What if a guy is named "John Bertucci" as opposed to "Giovanni Bertucci"?


But that's not the case here.

And you really don't see a lot of Italians trying to make this kind of a point.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85771 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:07 am to
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Firm job? No.



Well, among big firms in major markets, Joevequisha wins every time, at least for early associate jobs. Don't really see many Joses come through in this region.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
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67302 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:09 am to
He changed 2 letters, technically 3.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84335 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:09 am to
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But that's not the case here.

And you really don't see a lot of Italians trying to make this kind of a point.


Really? And you've done studies on this, or are you just assuming?
Posted by Ping Pong
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:10 am to
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José


the likelihood of someone having this name and speaking English fluently is low
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87246 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:12 am to
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Really? And you've done studies on this, or are you just assuming?


Dude, this is a message board.

So no, giving the fact that this IS a message board it's proper due, I have NOT researched it extensively. It's merely an opinion on my part.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:13 am to
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I have even heard the surname "Washington" carries racial significance & in many cases you are assumed to be Black .


Yes thats true. Jones and Johnson are both names with a lot of slave related background as well. Smith as well.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
84335 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:21 am to
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I know how Joe feels.
When I was looking for a job at thw bottom of the economy (early 2010), I was advised to drop the PhD from my resume.

The struggle is real


Damn.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73093 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:26 am to
Ramon Estevez had to become Martin Sheen to get a job.

Son Charlie Sheen (Carlos Estevez) had a better career than son Emilio Estevez.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19291 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:30 am to
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He changed 2 letters, technically 3


Removed the s and the accent on the e
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19291 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:32 am to
Yeah but Washington is almost primarily a black name. Smith is a tossup
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112600 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:33 am to
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So it's now Latinos and blacks that are discriminated against?
You think that doesn't happen?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112600 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:35 am to
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Like I said in the part of my post that you happened to ignore, companies have a quota to meet relative to race/ethnicity (mine included) black/Latino/women have a greater than average chance of being hired.
And you're ignoring the paragraph of the story with multiple links showing what the article is claiming does exist and does happen.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:49 am to
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Yes thats true. Jones and Johnson are both names with a lot of slave related background as well. Smith as well.


I just googled & found on the Huffington post an article: "Washington ; The Blackest name in America"


According to 2000 cenus there were about 160,000 Washington's in America & 90% were Black & about 5% White.



A couple White Washington's in the article say they are a bit more sensitive to racism because their name has caused them to be victims of bias in housing , employment,etc.......

One White guy Larry(Washington) says that his father always taught his kids to apply in person for housing or a job

Claims that sometimes when he shows up for interviews,jobs or housing their is sometimes a sigh of relief from the Whites who are pleasantly surprised to see that he is actually White.

Percentage wise only Jefferson & Jackson were behind Washington as 'Blackest' surnames. Ironically Lincoln wasn't a very popular name picked by Freed Blacks (only about 15 % of Lincolns are Black).

Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:50 am to
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Removed the s and the accent on the e



Changing a letter means you switch a letter to another letter.

He removed a letter, put the end e in it's place and dropped the accent.

3 moves.


The article should read he changed his name. Or Americanized his name.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 10:51 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:53 am to
There oughta be a law that says if you hire 1 Joe you have to hire at least José as well.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:19 am to
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Ramon Estevez had to become Martin Sheen to get a job.

Son Charlie Sheen (Carlos Estevez) had a better career than son Emilio Estevez.


I'm interesting in knowing if that was mostly a thing of the past or do Hispanic actors feel that they get type cast/limited roles because of their names or their look?

Cameron Diaz doesn't have much of a problem ,but her 'look' is obviously no issue.

The darker Hispanic actors/actress may feel differently about being typecast?
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19291 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:19 am to
But then the article wouldn't be as popular if they did that
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