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re: From a psychological standpoint, why is "outrage" so popular?

Posted on 12/17/23 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 4:24 pm to
lack of a natural predator or any real adversity to rally against

that pent-up energy has to go somewhere, and most people can't channel it properly

so they pick the biggest "problem" in their lives and go nuts

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 4:28 pm to
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lack of a natural predator or any real adversity to rally against

I do think there is something to that.

We are irrational beings that are living in a world organized for rational people. We struggle with rational thinking vs physical and emotional realities. Its very frustrating.

Primal desires are suppressed for rational results, which builds a lot of pressure.

Thats one reason we like drugs and alcohol so much, they let us be irrational.
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Duane Dibbley
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 4:31 pm to
Because that is the only emotion allowed to be expressed within the context of the new Orthodoxy.
Posted by Socrates Johnson
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 5:24 pm to
It’s all dopamine.
Posted by Willie Stroker
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 5:38 pm to
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From a psychological standpoint, why is "outrage" so popular?

It’s a way to express self-righteousness and superiority that narcissists think they can get away with.
Posted by epbart
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 5:40 pm to
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From a psychological standpoint, why is "outrage" so popular?

Outrage can be valid, but the current "outrage culture" we're seeing so much of is a function of (is popular) for a few reasons:

1) It is a substitute for real action.

When people give into a sense of outrage for its own sake, it gives them a sense that they're doing something. For the vast majority of people (as I see it), meaningful action never follows.

2) It is means of self-identifying with a group who holds similar opinions.

Identifying through outrage is, of course, shallow and speaks to being an NPC. To be fair, there is a certain amount of this on both sides politically, but I would say it is a little more apparent on the left as evidenced when the news (which is primarily left leaning) put out new talking points and encourages outrage, which inevitably follows.

3) People who engage in outrage feel validated by being able to express an opinion without fear of repercussions.

A couple of generations ago, it's far more likely that someone acting like a dumbass and expressing shallow outrage or related types of stupidity would be put in their place by the people around them. This could be through peer pressure up to and including getting your arse beat. It could also be by parents through arse beatings, punishment, etc. Now, there are fewer and fewer consequences for acting badly. Immoral behavior is, in fact, encouraged.

Note: The above statement is absolutely not a defense for bullying, which is not okay. Peer pressure itself can be good or bad depending on cultural values. In an Amish community, for instance, peer pressure can take the form of taking pride in waking up before dawn, devoutly attending to chores, etc., and laziness might be discouraged by peers. This idea is less ambiguous when looking at how parents are increasingly neutered with regards to how they prefer to parent their children (by teachers, govt, etc)

I could probably come up with a few more reasons, but the above should suffice. At the root of the current wave of outrage culture is critical theory/cultural marxism thought which seeks to undermine the strength of a target country by encouraging outrage on the behalf of the fringe groups within that society undermine order and justice.

Moving on from why outrage is popular, it's worth considering its nature for a moment. This is probably most easily done by comparing it to stoicism. Proper stoicism is not about passivity or not reacting to things emotionally when they might deserve an emotional response. It is about becoming internally strong enough to not be unhinged and breaking down over everything. It's about being principled and being able to control reactions in the appropriate way without losing control. Outrage culture is the opposite of this. It discourages internal strength and control. It attempts to give artificial strength to what is naturally weak, and promotes virtue signalling over virtue itself.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 5:57 pm to
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From a psychological standpoint, why is "outrage" so popular?


Not sure.

Some of it is virtue signaling. I am guilty of it myself. I have become hypocritical in some areas. Recently, I've had some life changing additions in my life and I am reevaluating my character. I have realized self-righteousness is not righteousness and will do better at not casting stones.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 2:40 pm to
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Moving on from why outrage is popular, it's worth considering its nature for a moment. This is probably most easily done by comparing it to stoicism. Proper stoicism is not about passivity or not reacting to things emotionally when they might deserve an emotional response. It is about becoming internally strong enough to not be unhinged and breaking down over everything. It's about being principled and being able to control reactions in the appropriate way without losing control. Outrage culture is the opposite of this. It discourages internal strength and control. It attempts to give artificial strength to what is naturally weak, and promotes virtue signalling over virtue itself.



Really epic post. I thought about becoming a stoic one time and read a few Epicetus books. But then I forgot about it and moved on to the thing that I wanted to do in life. The stoics were on to something, especially the part about sizing people up during conversations in real time and understanding why certain people say certain things at certain times. The only part about stoicism that freaked me out was only getting laid in order to procreate. That's just bizarre.

Posted by pelicansfan123
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 2:48 pm to
Because crapping on others allows some people to feel like they are morally superior to others. It also allows people to feel like they're "making a difference in the world."
Posted by CarpeDiem
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 2:52 pm to
Some people will never know the peace that comes with minding your own business
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 2:57 pm to
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The outrage and victim cycle is the “in” thing. People just need something to identify with because they’re generally just worthless and unhappy.
if you looked up 'Poli Board' in the dictionary
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 3:24 pm to
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if you looked up 'Poli Board' in the dictionary



That place is ground zero for drive-by Christians who haven't been to church in years but are content and comfortable in their Christianity because they post socially conservative messages on the internet.

It's almost as bad as white super liberals who rant about racial justice but go days or weeks at a time without interacting with any black people, except that one black co-worker, or go years or decades at a time without ever going into a black part of town.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Riggle
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 3:27 pm to
I think for a lot of people, they'd rather be emotionally activated (even negatively) than be bored
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 3:29 pm to
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From a psychological standpoint, why is "outrage" so popular?

Because agreeing with people via internet graphics is more psychologically fulfilling than being right and not getting likes on some vapid app.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 3:32 pm to
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I think for a lot of people, they'd rather be emotionally activated (even negatively) than be bored



Never heard it put like that before, that's solid. Boredom comes from becoming so advanced and comfortable as a society that you have to manufacture human emotion.
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 3:37 pm to
You’ve come to the right place.

Plenty of posters get “outraged” pretty easily on here.
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 3:48 pm to
I watch shows and movies I like, work in a great company, play video games, watch sports and work with my kids and attend or coach their various athletic events. I’ve found my life to be quite enjoyable turning off politics. People who have no significant other or kids and work meaningless jobs like Walmart cashier or whatever are utterly miserable and no group wants them.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37102 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 3:51 pm to
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I watch shows and movies I like, work in a great company, play video games, watch sports and work with my kids and attend or coach their various athletic events. I’ve found my life to be quite enjoyable turning off politics. People who have no significant other or kids and work meaningless jobs like Walmart cashier or whatever are utterly miserable and no group wants them.


I share your experience and sentiment.

However, a result of those decisions is that we have ceded the political landscape to single and emotionless losers who have been taught to believe that deconstructivism is the defining principle of reality.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 3:52 pm
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
4194 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 4:01 pm to
If you're speaking about the cancel culture portion of outrage, it's because it gives a sense of power and control to people who would otherwise have none.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
14324 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 4:21 pm to
Because people need to feel validated one way or another. It’s not always in a positive way either.
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