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re: Francine - Landfall in Terrebonne Parish as CAT 2 100 mph

Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:50 am to
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:50 am to
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This is my problem with the heat index and wind chill factor. Is there no wind in the summer? Is there no humidity in winter?


The human body experience temperature as heat exchange. Heat index and wind chill are meant to account for that. Humidity in winter and wind in summer dont drive the heat exchange like humidity in summer and wind in winter.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42629 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:06 am to
quote:

The human body experience temperature as heat exchange. Heat index and wind chill are meant to account for that. Humidity in winter and wind in summer dont drive the heat exchange like humidity in summer and wind in winter.


Then how come it feels cooler in Summer when the wind blows and colder in the Winter when it is damp???
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:31 am to
Its small potatoes in magnitude and makes it more comfortable. So, you dont worry about it.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2522 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:42 am to
That's why WBGT is a better indicator.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40342 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:43 am to
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Then how come it feels cooler in Summer when the wind blows and colder in the Winter when it is damp???



Hot air holds more water than cool air. It is always going to feel muggier in the summer mornings in the high 70s then it will in winter months, even if the relative humidity is around the same

usually not particularly windy on 100 degree days
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 9:45 am
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
9952 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:59 am to
What bothers me is we have meterologists who mention there is an area to watch, but when that area fizzles, they never come back and let everyone know it's done. It's like they pretend it was never there, that they didn't mention it.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50747 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:02 am to
But do you need them to tell you it's gone for you to know it's gone?
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25481 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:06 am to
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But do you need them to tell you it's gone for you to know it's gone?


Dude you needed the OT to tell you if your faucet was frozen or not.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50747 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:07 am to
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 10:07 am
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
9952 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:24 am to
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But do you need them to tell you it's gone for you to know it's gone?


Me, personally? No. The average person who only watches TV news and social media without doing more research. Yes, probably.

In this era of "look at me" and "watch us because we need the ratings", well, let us look at you when you're wrong, too. Since the same meterologists will come back and peacock about how they're right, it'd be nice for them to at least explain why they thought a storm might happen and then why it fizzled out.
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 10:25 am
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43295 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:44 pm to
Chnaces lowered to 30% for the wave but the Euro ensembles love it in the southern gulf later in the period. All kind of things happening, the wave moving west, the low near texas and the cold front coming later.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5901 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:09 pm to
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and the cold front coming later


Only news story in America that matters. Sorry, Astronauts, but we tasting 60s in Louisiana this weekend.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3206 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

This is my problem with the heat index and wind chill factor. Is there no wind in the summer? Is there no humidity in winter?


These two concepts have been around forever and were discussed on TV weather forecasts long before the current hype on climate change. We had wind chill advisories when I was a kid in Chicago winters ..... nearly 40 years ago.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42629 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Its small potatoes in magnitude and makes it more comfortable. So, you dont worry about it.


Exactly, you feel better in Summer when tgd wind blows and you feel better in Winter when it’s a dry cold.
Posted by Mr Roboto
Seattle
Member since Jan 2023
8153 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:07 pm to
Anyone monitoring the lemon in the gulf? Some ensemble members have a noodle or two heading to Louisiana
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
5053 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:18 pm to
It’s got 5-7 days if it does anything. And that’s a big IF. Ensembles have shown better support the last 24 hours but it’s still not a strong signal. It’s September in the Gulf so anything is possible, we’ll have to watch it but as of now it shouldn’t develop into anything significant.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75137 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:46 pm to
What should be a good, detailed breakdown of the failure modes in play with the season so far. I've just read the introduction, but it seems to be an honest accounting of what has been a miss so far.

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This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 11:48 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131565 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:47 am to
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2) extremely warm upper- level temperatures resulting in stabilization of the atmosphere


Global warming saving us!
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:43 am to
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Global warming saving us!


You know, thats a likely consequence, the upper trop getting warmer.

Though I think this year's story might be closer related to that volcano a year or two ago that dumped all that h2o vapor into the atmosphere.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16144 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:59 am to
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I think this year's story might be closer related to that volcano a year or two ago that dumped all that h2o vapor into the atmosphere.


Weather never ceases to amaze me.
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