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re: Francine - Landfall in Terrebonne Parish as CAT 2 100 mph

Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:00 pm to
The preseason forecast was correct just last year.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75137 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:03 pm to
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The preseason forecast was correct just last year.

You know better than this....they're dug in, and their minds will never be changed.

"They always say that!"
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131565 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:04 pm to
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The preseason forecast was correct just last year.


This season is technically still above average right now, just barely

Though 75% of the ACE came from Beryl
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 1:05 pm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:05 pm to
Wont end up that way unless October is huge.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131565 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:10 pm to
Yeah every day we go without a system it shifts below average fast
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44880 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:49 pm to
Until those egg heads at NOAA have to face the music for their hyperbolic predictions nothing will change. We’ve allowed the big money to come in and corrupt what used to be a scholarly pursuit of truth. Most of those people are more concerned now with fame than accurate forecasting of weather patterns.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43295 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:57 pm to
Seems like the 12Z models get the wave in the Bay of Campeche in about a week and then it lingers there
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75137 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:05 pm to
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Until those egg heads at NOAA have to face the music for their hyperbolic predictions nothing will change. We’ve allowed the big money to come in and corrupt what used to be a scholarly pursuit of truth. Most of those people are more concerned now with fame than accurate forecasting of weather patterns.

At least 20 different well known groups/outlets/entities issued pre-season Atlantic hurricane season forecasts this year. The average forecast called for 24 Named Storms, 11 Hurrianes, 5 Major Hurricanes, and 207 ACE (only 8 of the 20 made an ACE forecast). NOAA's pre-season forecast came in as the 15th highest of the lot with them calling for 21/10.5/5.5.

NOAA was by no means the most bullish for this Atlantic hurricane season. There are far more deserving targets for you to bash.
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131565 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:07 pm to
They need to stop having projections. It adds nothing. If a storm comes it comes. Fear porn in May accomplishes nothing.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75137 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:11 pm to
I've seen that argument being made, and I don't really care either way, mainly because I know that if they didn't issue a forecast and shite went sideways like 2005 or 2020 the line would be long of people crying and casting blame because they weren't warned about the possibility of a terrible hurricane season.

It is a lose/lose situation.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42629 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:20 pm to
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I've seen that argument being made, and I don't really care either way, mainly because I know that if they didn't issue a forecast and shite went sideways like 2005 or 2020 the line would be long of people crying and casting blame because they weren't warned about the possibility of a terrible hurricane season.


Honestly for most people it doesn’t make much of a difference.

Every season those who face the consequences of a storm should be aware of their situation depending on where they live. They should prepare accordingly ever year for the worst.

The number of storms predicted should not matter.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75137 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:22 pm to
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Every season those who face the consequences of a storm should be aware of their situation depending on where they live. They should prepare accordingly ever year for the worst.

The number of storms predicted should not matter.

All those "shoulds" in there. They are the problem and the disconnect.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36218 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:24 pm to
No preseason polls until week 3!!!
Posted by CoonassatTEXAS
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2005
1264 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 3:25 pm to
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Climate change isnt just warmer oceans May cause upper level winds, saharan dust and other shite to change making it more hostile to hurricane formation


i guess i'm now pro climate change???
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42629 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 3:39 pm to
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Climate change isnt just warmer oceans May cause upper level winds, saharan dust and other shite to change making it more hostile to hurricane formation


They kept saying over and over that warmer and warmer ocean temps would cause more and stronger hurricanes when it’s obvious that hot water alone doesn’t guarantee a hurricane.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43295 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 3:47 pm to


12Z Euro and GFS Ensembles
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21522 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 4:46 pm to
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12Z Euro and GFS Ensembles


Conditions might become more favorable for development in the Gulf beyond Day 5-7 when the remnants of this wave interact with a stalled frontal boundary.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43295 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 4:48 pm to
Not saying this will become Opal but reminds me of Opal in 1995. Setup that is
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 4:50 pm
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
8681 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 4:54 pm to
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They kept saying over and over that warmer and warmer ocean temps would cause more and stronger hurricanes when it’s obvious that hot water alone doesn’t guarantee a hurricane.


NOAA has released studies stating 'global warming' would cause LESS hurricanes and storms. Not sure who you mean by 'they' but the actual experts have said repeatedly that's not the case. Media, however, sure. But they're idiots.

Hot, dry, stable, air and Saharan Dust usually don't support formation.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102715 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:22 pm to
It’s funny how climate change always has to be worse weather


Is it not possible climate could change for the better leading to less severe weather?
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