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Four studies—including two from WHO—provide powerful evidence favoring the lab-leak theory

Posted on 10/10/21 at 7:20 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 7:20 am
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Science Closes In on Covid’s Origins

Wall Street Journal

Where did Covid-19 come from? The answer can be found in the SARS-CoV-2 virus itself. To get to the truth, we need only unleash the power of science.

Based on experience with SARS-1 in 2003 and MERS in 2012, we know that many people are infected by a host animal long before a coronavirus mutates to the point where it can jump from human to human. An extensive data set from late 2019—more than 9,000 hospital samples—is available of people exhibiting flulike (thus Covid-like) symptoms in China’s Hubei and Shaanxi provinces before the epidemic started. Based on SARS-1 and MERS, the natural zoonotic theory predicts 100 to 400 Covid infections would be found in those samples. The lab-leak hypothesis, of course, predicts zero. If the novel coronavirus were engineered by scientists pursuing gain-of-function research, there would be no instances of community infection until it escaped from the laboratory. The World Health Organization investigation analyzed those stored samples and found zero pre-pandemic infections. This is powerful evidence favoring the lab-leak theory.

Within months of the SARS-1 and MERS outbreaks, scientists found animals that had hosted the viruses before they made the jump to humans. More than 80% of the animals in affected markets were infected with a coronavirus. In an influential March 2020 paper in Nature Medicine, Kristian Andersen and co-authors implied that a host animal for SARS-CoV-2 would soon be found. If the virus had been cooked up in a lab, of course, there would be no host animal to find.


No host animals were ever found.

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A coronavirus adapts for its host animal. It takes time to perfect itself for infecting humans. But a pathogen engineered via accelerated evolution in a laboratory using humanized mice would need no additional time after escape to optimize for human infection. In their Nature Medicine paper, Mr. Andersen and colleagues pointed to what they considered the poor design of SARS-CoV-2 as evidence of zoonotic origin. But a team of American scientists mutated the stem of the coronavirus genome in nearly 4,000 different ways and tested each variation. In the process they actually stumbled on the Delta variant. In the end, they determined that the original SARS-CoV-2 pathogen was 99.5% optimized for human infection—strong confirmation of the lab-leak hypothesis.


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Based on the scientific evidence alone, an unbiased jury would be convinced that SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus escaped after being created in a laboratory using accelerated evolution (a k a gain of function) and gene splicing on the backbone of a bat coronavirus. Using standard statistical methods, we can quantify the likelihood of the lab-leak hypothesis compared with that of zoonosis. The odds enormously favor a lab leak, far more significantly than the 99% confidence usually required for a revolutionary scientific discovery.


Full article at link.
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 7:22 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65057 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 7:22 am to
I think we all realize that this virus originated from a lab. The only question remaining is did it get released due to incompetence or was there something nefarious afoot?
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 7:25 am to
But I was told that believing that was racist and a conspiracy.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22375 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 7:25 am to
Ok. Let’s now do the study where China new about it for months but hid it so it could get out and infect the whole world all while stocking up on all the medical supplies the world would need when they eventually found out!!
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8396 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 7:26 am to
a lot of people should burn for this, Fauci being one
but…unfortunately no one will
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260299 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 7:27 am to
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I think we all realize that this virus originated from a lab.


Who is "we?"

Media and social media blue checks consider this racism.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22375 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 7:27 am to
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I think we all realize that this virus originated from a lab. The only question remaining is did it get released due to incompetence or was there something nefarious afoot?



The fact that they purposely covered it up so that it would spread to the whole world makes that question moot. Whether it got out on purpose or not, THEY CLEARLY PURPOSELY ALLOWED IT TO SPREAD TO THE WHOLE WORLD!
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39934 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:02 am to
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Using standard statistical methods, we can quantify the likelihood of the lab-leak hypothesis compared with that of zoonosis. The odds enormously favor a lab leak, far more significantly than the 99% confidence usually required for a revolutionary scientific discovery.


Now do stolen election.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50410 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:17 am to
Why did they need studies for this? I knew this was what happened in May of 2020.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72936 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:21 am to
Hang Gates and Fauci
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2465 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:26 am to
Every one the the world knows it is China's fault. No one is willing to do anything.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24274 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:30 am to
China Flu
China Flu
China Flu
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:56 am to
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China Flu
China Flu
China Flu


Fauci Flu
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108241 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:07 am to
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I think we all realize that this virus originated from a lab. The only question remaining is did it get released due to incompetence or was there something nefarious afoot?


There’s an even bigger question than that: what else are they sitting on in that lab? Covid could have been among the most docile of the viruses in that lab. What happens if a virus with the same transmission rate as Covid but has a 30% mortality rate leaks from that lab? It’s the end of civilization as we know it, because the 70% that survive it will largely starve to death. Threats of nuclear war should be on the table over that lab.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72936 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:13 am to
They will just continue to roll out these bullshite “variants” every few months and the herd will follow in lockstep
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:13 am to
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There’s an even bigger question than that: what else are they sitting on in that lab?
LINK

The lab was destroyed by a rarity in China: a powerful tornado
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62763 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:15 am to
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The only question remaining is did it get released due to incompetence or was there something nefarious afoot?

The very fact that one side of the aisle has been determined to eradicate the very thought that the mere possibility of a lab leak was possible, is damning enough evidence for anyone with eyes.
If you really loved ypur fellow man and didn't consider them expendable, you would want to explore all avenues of eliminating the virus, whivh include determining the origins.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12407 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:15 am to
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The only question remaining is did it get released due to incompetence or was there something nefarious afoot?


China has spent the last several decades attempting to control their population explosion.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34711 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:16 am to
Why is this even still a debate? It 100% was cooked up in a lab. There is zero doubt about that. Why are some people still trying to deny that?
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34711 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:19 am to
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What happens if a virus with the same transmission rate as Covid but has a 30% mortality rate leaks from that lab?
society would completely collapse. You better have guns and plenty of ammo if this were to happen
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