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re: Founder of Jimmy Johns is a big game hunter. ( people upset)
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:23 pm to dnm3305
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:23 pm to dnm3305
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Why do some people feel the need to climb Everest? Why do some people feel the need to drive 120 mph? Why do some people like to jump out of an airplane? No one NEEDS to do ANYTHING, they WANT to do some things. I want to spot and stalk a grizzly in Alaska with a bow. I want the hide and the meat, but mainly I want the thrill and the sense of danger. I don't need to do it, I want to do it.
This paragraph is "Chaotic Evil" in a nut shell: LINK
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:25 pm to Watchmaker
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A better human being could have given the money to feed the town AND save the animals. So, what is it that makes slaughter and suffering drive this despicable human being?
Well that person doesn't exist. If there were as many bleeding heart liberal fricks like Leo DeCaprio that would put their money where their mouth is and actually just donate $350K to some shithole village in Africa, then you may have a point. Until that time comes, you have hunters to thank for the very existence of these animals at all.
Let me ask you something. What do you think the deer population in the United States is now when compared to before we settled here?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:26 pm to OMLandshark
He couldn't have said it any better. Thrill of the kill shot. Pity the fool.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:26 pm to Napoleon
I started to get pissed about the black rhino, but unlike SJW I didn't react based off of viral social media and started to do some digging and found this:
A January 2014 auction for a permit to hunt a black rhinoceros in Namibia sold for $350,000 at a fundraiser hosted by the Dallas Safari Club. The auction drew considerable criticism as well as death threats directed towards members of the club and the man who purchased the permit. This permit was issued for 1 of 18 black rhinoceros specifically identified by Namibia's Ministry of Environment and Tourism as being past breeding age and considered a threat to younger rhinos. The $350,000 that the hunter paid for the permit was used by the Namibian government to fund anti-poaching efforts in the country.
A January 2014 auction for a permit to hunt a black rhinoceros in Namibia sold for $350,000 at a fundraiser hosted by the Dallas Safari Club. The auction drew considerable criticism as well as death threats directed towards members of the club and the man who purchased the permit. This permit was issued for 1 of 18 black rhinoceros specifically identified by Namibia's Ministry of Environment and Tourism as being past breeding age and considered a threat to younger rhinos. The $350,000 that the hunter paid for the permit was used by the Namibian government to fund anti-poaching efforts in the country.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:27 pm to Napoleon
I'm convinced people that hunt animals like this purely for sport are complete narcissists or have some other subconscious mental issues they need to deal with.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:27 pm to Watchmaker
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A better human being could have given the money to feed the town AND save the animals.
but they aren't
so until the people crying about it actually start putting up the money, the best system in place to help conserve these animals is by letting rich assholes pay to kill them
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:30 pm to RedPants
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I'm convinced people that hunt animals like this purely for sport are complete narcissists or have some other subconscious mental issues they need to deal with.
It's all between their ears. They don't even know why or can explain what they love about it. Neurological damage.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:30 pm to Watchmaker
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He couldn't have said it any better. Thrill of the kill shot. Pity the fool.
Do you have any idea what the thrill of the kill feels like? Do you have any idea how primal human beings are and what we come from? The thrill of the hunt is inside of all us but we as a civilization have been castrated by advancements in technology and entitlement. Survival of the fittest is no longer true due to our way of life now, but that doesn't mean that it isn't the nature inside of all of us. Are you a vegan? If you aren't a vegan at all and you eat store bought meat, then you can shut the frick up.
“All America lies at the end of the wilderness road, and our past is not a dead past, but still lives in us. Our forefathers had civilization inside themselves, the wild outside. ... What they dreamed, we live, and what they lived, we dream.” TK Whipple
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:31 pm to dnm3305
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Im just going to go ahead and assume that you are trolling because you just simply cannot grasp the idea of hunting conservation.
I don't give a shite about deer or duck hunting. Hell I don't even really care about lion hunting, since I know in a few years that lion is going to be killed by another male anyway and a different male will come take up the space he left behind.
An elephant, you really don't see the difference between hunting a water buffalo and an animal that has religious rituals and probably the most potent sense of empathy in the animal kingdom? No one should hunt an elephant unless it is actively going out killing people. That's where I draw the line with hunting, and these small dicked pussies need stop slaughtering these majestic animals.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:31 pm to Napoleon
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Well, I live in South Africa. I spent more than a year living and working in The Kruger National Park. I know many rangers. I also know professional hunters. I know owners of big game farms, and I know the situation with Africa’s wildlife pretty damn well by now. This is why I can say with absolute confidence that Jimmy is absolutely full of crap when he claims that trophy hunting funds conservation, feeds starving villages or keeps the ecosystem in balance by keeping animal numbers down. Those are 100% lies perpetuated by the trophy hunting industry and they’re easily disproved.
It is well known here that trophy hunting funds less than 2% of our conservation efforts in South Africa. Normal tourism (as in shooting animals with cameras only) raises over 15x more money for conservation than any form of trophy hunting in Africa does. Without brutally killing anything. Most people who do trophy or canned hunting like this, are only fattening the wallets of wealthy game farm owners who only care to protect their own animals from poachers coming on their property. This does nothing to protect animals in the ‘wild’ national parks where most endangered animals live.
As for feeding locals, 9 times out of 10 the meat from a trophy hunt (especially if it’s a large animal) is left in the dirt for the scavengers because they cant be bothered to move the body or process it. Plus, the locals here don’t eat lions, rhinos or elephants anyway. They eat fish, chicken, pork and beef like most people around the world do.
When it comes to animal numbers, I wont deny that there are some species that are breeding out of control. Impala and warthog are often culled for this reason. I know a guy that kills an impala every single day as part of his ranger job. You know why that is? BECAUSE HUNTERS HAVE KILLED MOST OF THEIR NATURAL PREDATORS. Then the prey become outnumbered, they eat up all the food before it has a chance to grow back and then all the animals starve. That’s why Rangers have to shoot so many of them to try to keep the ecosystem in balance. But that’s just it.. Nobody comes here to shoot an impala. They come here to shoot lions, leopards, elephants and other big 5 animals more than anything else, thus making the imbalance in the ecosystem even worse, not better.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:34 pm to dnm3305
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Do you have any idea what the thrill of the kill feels like? Do you have any idea how primal human beings are and what we come from? The thrill of the hunt is inside of all us but we as a civilization have been castrated by advancements in technology and entitlement. Survival of the fittest is no longer true due to our way of life now, but that doesn't mean that it isn't the nature inside of all of us.
Dude, this is something Heath Ledger's Joker would say. It's something Albert Fish or John Wayne Gacy would say. Your moral alignment is clearly Chaotic Evil, and you don't give a frick about anyone but yourself and the thrill.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:35 pm to Napoleon
I don't like him solely for the stupid grin and thumbs up poses....
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:36 pm to LordSaintly
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I actually don't get the appeal of big game hunting. Shouldn't you only kill what you eat?
Anyone who gets a thrill out of killing an animal that is not for sustenance is psychologically impaired
Sincerely,
A Hunter
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:36 pm to OMLandshark
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No one should hunt an elephant unless it is actively going out killing people. That's where I draw the line with hunting, and these small dicked pussies need stop slautering these majestic animals.
When that time comes and all these small dicked hunters are no longer paying to hunt your precious elephants, the herd will slowly die off.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:36 pm to Volvagia
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This permit was issued for 1 of 18 black rhinoceros specifically identified by Namibia's Ministry of Environment and Tourism as being past breeding age and considered a threat to younger rhinos. The $350,000 that the hunter paid for the permit was used by the Namibian government to fund anti-poaching efforts in the country.
I still can't buy off on it. I love the rhino, a majestic and noble steed.
Couldn't they have auctioned off permits for rhino rides or something instead of killing the big guy?
If he was a threat to others due to his Alpha status seems like there could be other ways to solve rather than killing a very slim species.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:37 pm to LCA131
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I don't like him solely for the stupid grin and thumbs up poses....
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:38 pm to Napoleon
What a self absorbed arse !
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:38 pm to dnm3305
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When that time comes and all these small dicked hunters are no longer paying to hunt your precious elephants, the herd will slowly die off.
Napoleon just posted a link that it's less than 2% of the conservation effort funds. Your point has been refuted.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:38 pm to Volvagia
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A January 2014 auction for a permit to hunt a black rhinoceros in Namibia sold for $350,000 at a fundraiser hosted by the Dallas Safari Club. The auction drew considerable criticism as well as death threats directed towards members of the club and the man who purchased the permit. This permit was issued for 1 of 18 black rhinoceros specifically identified by Namibia's Ministry of Environment and Tourism as being past breeding age and considered a threat to younger rhinos. The $350,000 that the hunter paid for the permit was used by the Namibian government to fund anti-poaching efforts in the country.
everyone who wants to ever discuss this shite should listen to the Joe Rogan podcast with this hunter (corey knowlton)
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:38 pm to OMLandshark
You correctly described the elephant social structure, but he killed a bull, so no harm done.
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