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re: Fortune: America is becoming the ‘uncool’ country that people want to move away from
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:56 am to BK Lounge
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:56 am to BK Lounge
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I dont think it’s ‘cool’ vs ‘uncool’ as much as it is sanity vs insanity .. having lived overseas now for the last few years, from the outside looking in, America looks like a dysfunctional shitshow in almost every conceivable way .. and if you dare to speak up and say anything about it, you are accused of being unpatriotic or, god forbid, that you have “omg TDS !!11!!11!!”…. There’s just no sanity there at all .
That is easy to conclude if you forget social media and corporate news are psyop playgrounds overrun with bots and meatbots. You are rightly recognizing something is wrong, but when I start hating one side almost exclusively, I know I am being played.
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Posted on 3/3/26 at 8:03 am to Kinderman
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the U.S. experienced definitive negative net migration for the first time since the Great Depression
Citizens? Or illlegals? According to Grok there were about 650,000 deportations.
This post was edited on 3/3/26 at 8:05 am
Posted on 3/3/26 at 8:09 am to Kinderman
Ignore the 10,000,000+ that wanted to be here so bad in the past few years, that they came illegally.....
Posted on 3/3/26 at 8:14 am to JGTiger
Fortune used to be a respectable rag and now it’s clickbait crap like all the rest. Because George Clooney, who thy believe to be the pinnacle of all that’s cool, moved to France then ergo it’s not cool to live in the US anymore. No mention of Ellen and Rosie? They aren’t cool too?
Posted on 3/3/26 at 8:24 am to TSS_Tiger
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Also, Is the idea that they are retaining US level salaries while moving to other countries?
Yes, that’s the ideal scenario .. there’s actually a term for it- ‘geographic arbitrage’.. but it’s much easier said than done .
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I am assuming that they forfeit whatever is paid into their social security?
Why would you assume something so ludicrous ? I live overseas for what i consider a better life for me.. but ive been paying into SS since my first fast food job in the USA at 14 yrs old in the year 1993.. and then for decades afterwards .. Why would i, or anyone else, forfeit what theyve paid in, just because the USA has gone down the shitter ?
Posted on 3/3/26 at 8:44 am to BK Lounge
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Yes, that’s the ideal scenario .. there’s actually a term for it- ‘geographic arbitrage’.. but it’s much easier said than done .
This seems like it would be a temporary opportunity for most jobs, especially if there are significant differences in time zones.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 8:52 am to dgnx6
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The everyone should buy a home even if they can’t afford it model.
Wtf are you even talking about?
Before the 90s the average home cost was only 3x the average income
Posted on 3/3/26 at 9:08 am to Crowknowsbest
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This seems like it would be a temporary opportunity for most jobs, especially if there are significant differences in time zones.
Not really, you’d be surprised.. I actually took a pay cut to work overseas, since i thought id have a better overall quality of life and lower cost of living.. both have turned out to be true, for me …. But there are tons of jobs where you can make USA ‘first world’ dollars while living in ‘3rd world’ or developing nations .. think finance, government, even teaching - yes many teachers at international schools make what would be considered a first-world salary .. on the finance side, i know guys who live in Asia and they work US trading hours, so they are basically up most of the night.. but if you ask most of those guys, and if you asked me- id MUCH rather work graveyard hours and get to live in Ho Chi Minh or Bangkok or Bali than work normal hours and have to live in America .
Also fwiw i think the US has become more 3rd world than most of the 3rd world countries we’ve traditionally thought of.. but i digest .
Posted on 3/3/26 at 9:27 am to Kinderman
Those people are figs.
Bring a normal Euro bruh over here and watch how cool he thinks it is.
Bring a normal Euro bruh over here and watch how cool he thinks it is.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:23 am to Kinderman
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country that people want to move away from
That's a good thing! IF you feel a little uneasy here, it could be because you don't belong here. Pack your shite and GTFO.
We appreciate you for leaving.
Now, CHOP CHOP, let's go!
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:26 am to AgCoug
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Rough guess there are 345 million people in living in the USA. I'd be fine with only 200 million or so.
In a vacuum yes that sounds nice but that would cause an economic catastrophe. Complete collapse of real estate value leading to a massive loss of equity among the middle and upper middle class. Businesses would fail everywhere, and tax revenue declines with our already massive debt would lead to complete financial collapse.
The only way this house of cards stays standing is with GDP growth and that needs population growth to sustain itself.
The only possibility to have massive population decline and increase productivity and GDP is to dominate with AI and make lots of products cheaply for export
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:29 am to Kinderman
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:42 am to Kinderman
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When George Clooney secured French citizenship last year and confirmed that his family’s main home is now a farm in Provence, it sent a strong message about the standing of the American Dream.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:44 am to Kinderman
Well...BYE!
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:51 am to Kinderman
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When George Clooney secured French citizenship last year and confirmed that his family’s main home is now a farm in Provence, it sent a strong message about the standing of the American Dream.
First, why do they think I give a rat's arse about George Clooney or his family??
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been unusually blunt about what the move represents:
1. Clooney bet that his children would have a “much better life” in a country where fame matters less
Dude, that's on you! Move to the jungles of Africa.
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2. privacy laws are stronger
He has a good argument here. European countries didn't sell their soul the way the USA has when it comes to selling our personal data to the highest bidder.
BUT, I'm not moving out of the country. How about start a campaign to force a change.
Again, if it's that important to you, move to the jungles of Africa. Deep in the jungle.
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3. childhood can be more ordinary than it would be in Los Angeles.
Bitch, that's on YOU again. LA and California is the shite hole YOU decided to call home.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:56 am to jchamil
“with an estimated loss of about 150,000 people,according to Brookings calculations”
Sounds like bullshite to me.Probably counted service members serving overseas.
Sounds like bullshite to me.Probably counted service members serving overseas.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 12:00 pm to Kinderman
"The South of France is a shithole."
Jayson with a y, 49, Oberlin
Jayson with a y, 49, Oberlin
Posted on 3/3/26 at 11:38 pm to sgallo3
In the late 1970s, my dad worked a minimum wage job in south Louisiana and was able to afford a brand new hot rod- a Gran Torino like Starsky & Hutch drove- and he was able to afford diapers for my infant arse.. minimum wage, as with many other things- simply hasnt even come close to keeping up with home prices, inflation and CEO pay .. dont have the numbers in front of me, but in the ‘70s , CEOs made soemthing like 75x the salary of their average worker, now it’s somehting like 500x the salary of the average worker.. merely another sign of how out of whack things are .
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This post was edited on 3/3/26 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:34 am to BK Lounge
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In the late 1970s, my dad worked a minimum wage job in south Louisiana and was able to afford a brand new hot rod- a Gran Torino like Starsky & Hutch drove- and he was able to afford diapers for my infant arse.. minimum wage, as with many other things- simply hasnt even come close to keeping up with home prices, inflation and CEO pay .. dont have the numbers in front of me, but in the ‘70s , CEOs made soemthing like 75x the salary of their average worker, now it’s somehting like 500x the salary of the average worker.. merely another sign of how out of whack things are .
High taxes and strong labor laws have an impact. 40+ years of tax cutting and deregulation also has an impact.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:42 am to Kinderman
America had 250 million people in 1990. We have 350 million today. Not very many people are leaving.
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