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re: Forgotten Horrors: Ant-Walking Alligators of Hiroshima

Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14342 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:01 pm to
It's all a matter of how many you're willing to see die to get the job done, goofball. Thinking you may be too dense to have this discussion.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:01 pm to
Third leg is a typical progressive. Hates america.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19938 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:02 pm to
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I would ask how we had managed to do it without nukes since the revolution, considering we have been engaged in military operations from that point forward.
and after you answer that question, ask how we won wars before guns. then ask how we won them before swords.

maybe you can award yourself some more posting accolades because you certainly won't be winning any from anyone else today.
Posted by vinceclsu
Ponchatoula. LA
Member since Feb 2006
296 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:04 pm to
WWII comes down to two things. Germany decided to invade Russia in the middle of Winter which was mistake one as tanks are virtually useless in the snow and mountains. Second was Japan jumped the gun when bombing Pearl Harbor as they were suppose to wait until Russia was conquered but pride got in the way. The bombing is what brought the US into an active role in the war. If Japan waits, we might all be speaking German.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10742 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:04 pm to
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Third leg is a typical progressive. Hates america.

I don't even know what a progressive is supposed to be.

And no, I don't like war, which is what we do best.

I'm more Creedence Clearwater Revival than Sk8r hipster.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61809 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:04 pm to
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That said, do you disagree that the fallout existed in an on-going form?
Not to any significant degree. Some involved in the blast who weren't killed developed cancer. This was not genetically passed on nor contagious. There's not a single case of someone not involved in the blast dying from fallout radiation. And there were hundreds of thousands brought in for relief, recovery, and rebuilding.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10742 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:05 pm to
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and after you answer that question, ask how we won wars before guns. then ask how we won them before swords. maybe you can award yourself some more posting accolades because you certainly won't be winning any from anyone else today.

I wonder why nobody else has ever used them.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38691 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:05 pm to
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The eye for an eye maxim never ceases to amaze me. War is ugly, I get it. shite goes down, mistakes are made. But I have always struggled to rationalize how people thought we were within reason to drop two nukes on these frickers.


We were dealing with a savage, ruthless enemy that was determined to slaughter or enslave anyone who didn't meet their standard.

We were within reason to drop 200 nukes.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12219 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:05 pm to
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troyt37


quote:


OP, I wouldn't live here, with all of us terrorist pieces of shite. I'd move, or at least have the stones to find the nearest VFW and tell all of them there what terrorists we were for nuking Japan.



I think you have me confused with someone else posting in this thread......I just posted the link because it's interesting, never once said anything negative about the US or the military.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19938 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:07 pm to
we got to it first. if japan had it, they would have used it, too. do you doubt that?
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10742 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:11 pm to
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we got to it first. if japan had it, they would have used it, too. do you doubt that?

I don't know. Nobody ever will.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75356 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:11 pm to
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But I have always struggled to rationalize how people thought we were within reason to drop two nukes on these frickers
.

That's because you had the luxury of being born 40 years after the fact and cannot relate to the pressures and circumstances brought to bear on those faced with that decision. You don't know and will never know the gravity of that time.
Posted by Open Dore Policy
The Commodore State
Member since Oct 2012
4702 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:11 pm to
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I'm more Creedence Clearwater Revival than Sk8r hipster.


Don't try to make Creedence Clearwater Revival a part of your un-Americanism!
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10742 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:13 pm to
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That's because you had the luxury of being born 40 years after the fact and cannot relate to the pressures and circumstances brought to bear on those faced with that decision. You don't know and will never know the gravity of that time.

I think this statement holds water, and I have acknowledged this already.

To that point, it's dangerous to think like that with frequency. Under those guidelines, few criticisms shall ever be made.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21384 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:18 pm to
Think: Iwo Jima x 1000000 = Fun times.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75356 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:18 pm to
That's fine, thoughtful criticism is fine, but you don't have to come to the conclusion that it was the "greatest act of terror ever" if you can't truly know the time and situation.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61809 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:19 pm to
You seem to be very ignorant on this. You can read Truman's diary and how he struggled with it. You can read how many of the top officials pushed for a demonstration rather than a direct bombing, until they realized this wouldn't work. You can read about how we made an agreement with Britain that we would ask their permission first (and we did).


Most of all, you can read about the logistics of the war and really come to understand how necessary it was. Feel free to form your own opinions from there. For now, you seem ignorant on the topic. Which isn't an insult, I'm ignorant on automotive repair. Everyone's ignorant on most things.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19938 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:21 pm to
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I don't know. Nobody ever will.

well isn't that a convenient out. i like your selective apathy. you use it to shrug off whether or not our enemy would have done the same to us, but it's nowhere to be found when making outlandish judgements about a time and situation you've had the fortune to never participate.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:24 pm to
I'm a Missourian. Say what you will about Missourians, but never question our knowledge about Truman, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Mark Twain. We spend more time on those subjects than students in most other states.

We also are taught that Third Leg is an uneducated idiot.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10742 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:25 pm to
Ignorant? Look at my sig, brochacho.

I wouldn't imagine US leaders to support any other position.

I also hold America to higher standards than Japanese terrorists. The problem that I see is nobody else does. They did it first - reminiscent of the "bush did it" crap everyone derides.
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