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re: Forget Covid, Forget the election. shite is about to get real
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:14 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:14 pm to Jim Rockford
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the high energy particle collider would start the top of our universe with the making a part of its own.

Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:16 pm to Jim Rockford
They're tripping on acid watching too much Rick & Morty
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:22 pm to jcaz
quote:a black hole has absolutely nothing to do with any of that except in fiction
Truthfully I’m a believer in alternate timelines and universes.
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:48 pm to jcaz
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Truthfully I’m a believer in alternate timelines and universes. Mandela Effect has me convinced that they have been fricking with us for awhile.
It was Bernstein Bears, wasn't it?
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:48 pm to Puffoluffagus
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I feel like articles about how the LHC will kill us all comes out about every 6months.
Well...they only need to be correct once.
Posted on 10/17/20 at 10:53 pm to Jim Rockford
As long as they are wearing a mask it will be ok.
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:03 pm to lazy
This article is a week old, I guess we are okay
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:12 pm to xGeauxLSUx
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It was Bernstein Bears, wasn't it?
Yep! And I recalled Mandela dying in prison too. I also had a freaky experience just last week. One of my bathroom lights went out months ago. I never changed it and no one else in the house would have. It started working again Friday morning. Did we get shifted again?
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:13 pm to Jim Rockford
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would start the top of our universe with the making a part of its own.
Am I drunk or are you?
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:15 pm to Jim Rockford
To the bunker, James!
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:12 am to jcaz
quote:Sounds like the chip in my debit card
I also had a freaky experience just last week. One of my bathroom lights went out months ago. I never changed it and no one else in the house would have. It started working again Friday morning. Did we get shifted again?

In general, I think the energy issue is what makes all this safe... we can't generate the amount of energy required to do something truly cataclysmic.
However, someone help me out here. I used to know a lot more about quantum physics as a lad, when I wanted to be the next Scotty (Star Trek). Grown adult responsibilities have dulled my mind;
But: tiny black holes? Forgive me, but isn't the size irrelevant? As in, once you start a black hole, won't it suck in surrounding matter, and start increasing mass? And then grow accordingly?
We're either not talking about "black holes" as commonly understood, or they're indeed fricking around with dangerous concepts. I would imagine the safeguard might be to play within a suitably large vacuum, and allow it to decompose after it's formed... do black holes decompose or dissipate? I'd think once you have collapsed subatomic distances enough to create a massive enough object that it becomes a singularity (black hole), it "stays". In theory then, you could seek to contain in within a suitable vacuum, but that would need to be in perpetuity. A breakdown of the vacuum in a decade, century, millennia etc, would lead to a cascade that would suck in surrounding matter, grow, and -poof- we're gone.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:22 am to jcaz
quote:If you thought Mandela died in prison you should be convinced you're retarded.
Mandela Effect has me convinced that they have been fricking with us for awhile
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:30 am to Jim Rockford
My theory tonight: The LHC has ended the world multiple times already. We're the universe that splinters off that keeps going.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:31 am to Jake88
He ain’t the only one...I remember it it, too. It was a big deal. Media lies, maybe? Whatever. I remember.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 1:30 am to Scoob
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In theory then, you could seek to contain in within a suitable vacuum
Glad to see that someone else also realized the implications of this. They basically need to have a “box” ready to put this thing in when/if they create a black hole. They’ll have to go into the collider and retrieve the black hole. The “box” has gotta work and it’s gotta last forever (not an exaggeration).
What I’m also wondering about is how this all happens regarding the behavior of time. Time would move significantly slower as your distance increased from the black hole. So an hour extremely close to the black hole would be possibly relative to 50,000 hours for us as the observers.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 1:42 am to Scoob
Me browsing the OT at 1:40am looking for some lighthearted fun.
And then I see posts like this.....
...thinking, I seriously hope those scientists considered this ^^^
And then I see posts like this.....
quote:
In general, I think the energy issue is what makes all this safe... we can't generate the amount of energy required to do something truly cataclysmic.
However, someone help me out here. I used to know a lot more about quantum physics as a lad, when I wanted to be the next Scotty (Star Trek). Grown adult responsibilities have dulled my mind;
But: tiny black holes? Forgive me, but isn't the size irrelevant? As in, once you start a black hole, won't it suck in surrounding matter, and start increasing mass? And then grow accordingly?
We're either not talking about "black holes" as commonly understood, or they're indeed fricking around with dangerous concepts. I would imagine the safeguard might be to play within a suitably large vacuum, and allow it to decompose after it's formed... do black holes decompose or dissipate? I'd think once you have collapsed subatomic distances enough to create a massive enough object that it becomes a singularity (black hole), it "stays". In theory then, you could seek to contain in within a suitable vacuum, but that would need to be in perpetuity. A breakdown of the vacuum in a decade, century, millennia etc, would lead to a cascade that would suck in surrounding matter, grow, and -poof- we're gone.
...thinking, I seriously hope those scientists considered this ^^^
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:13 am to jcaz
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They once thought detonating a nuclear weapon would ignite the atmosphere.
I'm in the Black Hole>>>Nuclear weapon camp though personally
Posted on 10/18/20 at 4:45 am to SEClint
quote:You talking weapons use, or overall danger?quote:
They once thought detonating a nuclear weapon would ignite the atmosphere.
I'm in the Black Hole>>>Nuclear weapon camp though personally
I don't know all the physics behind it, but I do know the basic principle is collapsing the distance between subatomic particles, to form an incredibly massive (for it's size) object. There are forces in play that keep these particles spaced out, to overcome those, I'd think we're talking enormous amounts of energy will be in play. We're talking a step beyond fusion, we're talking subatomic collapse.
I guess the concept is, you do a small enough group of particles, you (I suppose) could temporarily "squeeze" them into an artificial singularity, but they'd rebound back to normal when you reach the end of whatever you're doing to collapse them.
You simply don't have the necessary energy to sustain an artificial singularity without the added assistance of gravity (native to real black holes).
If so, the dangers involved might be-
a; if you're slamming and compressing matter, I suppose there might be a risk of fusion. Heck, I would assume the same basic technique would be in play to start a fusion reaction, so that might be the primary purpose of this. But you need to ensure you have a clean environment, you don't want to spark something that could be explosive and breach containment.
b; in playing with this, people better be sure of their math. I'm sure they are, but the error is a doomsday scenario...
basically, you want to stay below the threshold for creating a sustained singularity. At some point, the compressed matter will obtain enough mass to sustain, and I don't think we know any means of reversing THAT. And if you exceed the threshold and make one, it's over.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 4:47 am to NotoriousFSU
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I will listen to science!
Are the scientists saying wear a mask, or don't wear a mask this week? Keep in mind, today is the 18th, an even numbered day, before answering.
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