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re: FOR SALE: Corner of Bluebonnet and Jefferson

Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43078 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:26 pm to
Question, how many auctions did you attend where the govt. entity was selling their property?

This was not a sheriff's sale for taxes, there were no banks involved or any of the normal circumstances attached to this deal. It was simply a cash sale and according to state law a minimum price should have been set.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:34 pm to
I'd like to know where/when it was posted in the paper. I can't find anything online.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2072 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:34 pm to
Every property auction I have participated in was cash only, no banks, and properties we're being sold by the parish/city/town never the sheriff. This is not an uncommon occurrence.

I have participated in tax auctions also, but avoid foreclosure auctions and sheriff sales.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 7:35 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135363 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:38 pm to
The dates the public notices were published were listed earlier in this thread. The Advocate is the current paper for publishing public notices for EBR Parish.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43078 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:38 pm to
According to the statute if it was govt. property s minimum price had to be set
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19221 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:43 pm to
There is nothing online in the advocate about this auction. I have searched. Check my post on one of the first few pages.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

The dates the public notices were published were listed earlier in this thread. The Advocate is the current paper for publishing public notices for EBR Parish.


Can't seem to search that far back. I'd like to see them, if anyone comes across them.
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19221 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:53 pm to
Posting again for clarity.

quote:

It was posted in the Advocate, the New Orleans Advocate, and the Acadiana Advocate on 11/21/16, 11/28/16. and 12/5/16.

Nobody was paying attention.


I don't see shite.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

Posting again for clarity.


I believe the public notices don't come up there, but I could be wrong.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2072 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:59 pm to
I'm not going to argue with you. I've bought and sold properties in the same manner and know what it entails. Your issue is with the states written laws, not the C-P. File a suit and get it fixed.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43078 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:51 pm to
I'm not arguing with you at all. I'm just trying to understand the process. Obviously you understand it better than I, but it's just puzzling to see govt. putting their properties up for auction and not following the statute. There's got to be something I'm missing.

Thxs for the information.
Posted by Rohan
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
1636 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 12:34 am to
I'll post the ad tomorrow if you can't find it. This is all public record.
Posted by Rohan
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
1636 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 12:36 am to
Also, if this gets rescinded and I was the purchaser, I would let the city get their appraisal and sue them for that amount.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:04 am to
Damn, this thread turned into about 6 pages of Russian getting deep-dicked without lube.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:05 am to
I'm willing to bet there's some substantial Quid Pro Quo going on with this deal.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43078 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:26 am to
From this morning's BRBR;

quote:

Baton Rouge will no longer sell surplus land without first having it appraised, a city-parish official says, after a highly-desirable piece of land at a busy intersection—which was never appraised—sold for just $10,000 earlier this year.

“We don’t want to have this come up again,” says Billy Aaron, a special assistant parish attorney who handles city land sales, adding signs will also be placed on properties up for auction to better advertise the sales.

quote:


The city is currently discussing whether to try to renegotiate the terms of the sale with Cosman or take the matter to court, Aaron says, but no decisions have been made yet.

By law, a seller can seek to recoup a property if it is sold at less than half the appraised value, he says. If the city decided to backtrack on the deal, Aaron says, it would begin by trying to negotiate directly with Cosman. The city has one year from the time of the sale to try to revoke the deal.


LINK

It's good to know the City-Parish is making some necessary changes. It's good to see the City-Parish is trying to weigh their options under the law.

I believe Aaron, and Heck both should be questioned about this entire process.

Heck was said to be helping the developer, he says it was all part of a "push" to put property into commerce, but Aaron says the sale was "rare".

How common is this? Why would a "rare" sale not draw more attention from Aaron. Wouldn't he be aware of what something is worth if he's the one in charge of selling it? And again so would Heck. After all it seems he was the one who pushed this deal through. Why did he vote to accept a bid that was not in the public's best interest?

I hope Pupera, and Moore look into exactly what happened here. Something still smells.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4676 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:32 am to
Another update:
quote:

The developer who got a steep discount on a piece of city-owned land at auction earlier this year also picked up another piece of property from the city at an auction several years ago for less than half its value, according to a city-parish appraisal.

Developer Radu Cosman paid for an appraisal on the 22,000-square-foot piece of land fronting Bluebonnet Boulevard in the Inniswold Estates neighborhood in 2013. That appraisal, completed by RHI Appraisals, found the property was only worth $42,000.

But the city commissioned its own appraisal on the land—which the city-parish owned—and found it was worth $255,000.

Cosman earlier that year had asked his representative on the Metro Council, Ryan Heck, to declare the land surplus and have the city sell it to him. The land is located behind Cosman’s house. The council then approved the land to be sold at auction, where Cosman outbid one other person and bought the property for $50,000.

The Metro Council unanimously approved the sale of the property in December 2013, and the deal closed the following month. The city-parish appraisal, which assumed a single office building could be developed on the property, suggests Cosman got a more than $200,000 discount on the land.

Appraisal shows Baton Rouge sold surplus property for $200,000 less than it was worth
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112587 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Why didn't you pay more attention to what was going on last November and December and speak against the sale?
So we need to activiely watch day and night in order to keep our city govt from fricking us over?


Christ you have to be involved in this somehow.
Posted by Capitalist
Member since May 2014
179 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 4:20 pm to
Agree nothing illegal was done. But had i or any other person had approached our council rep. to declare a very valuable city land as surplus and sold at auction, you know damn well that council rep. would have made damn sure the public was properly notified and given input on it. Also, the bureaucracy in trying to get the city to put a piece of land up for sale, Ryan Heck fast tracked this, because he had incentive to get his close friend and family to buy it. And Radu Cosman owns his own concrete company, he does not need Ryan Heck to provide concrete, he got Ryan in the concrete business if anything. And Bluebonnet and Jefferson is prime property. There are currently 7 to 10 new developments (residential and commercial) going up in the vicinity, including a new bank across the street. So whoever said this is the hood, obviously got their head up their arse. Houses easily sell for $200 to $800K in that neighborhood depending on the lot size and age of the house. The land is worth more on many of the lots than the houses themselves are worth (especially the older homes). Many of the old houses are bought, torn down, and then multiple houses, even small gated neighborhoods are then built on the acre or more that once stood only 1 house. Very nice area and centrally located in Baton Rouge (I-10 /I-12 Split area - quick access to the entire city within minutes from that area). It sort of like a piece of rural country in the middle of the city. You are even allowed to have farm animals, because most of the land is still zoned rural.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Capitalist
Member since May 2014
179 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 4:26 pm to
The triangular lot is easily worth $200-250K if appraised as office (zoned UDD1). Appraised as $42K if residential. But that lot on Bluebonnet Blvd can easily be rezoned to UDD1 to allow for Office Space in accordance with UDD1 Zoning. Furthermore, this lesser known triangular lot was never maintained by city unlike the corner lot at Bluebonnet and Jefferson. The city should allow this lot to be rezoned because they never took care of it before putting it up for auction.
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