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re: Folks on Ozempic who claim weight loss from other factors
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:05 am to jizzle6609
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:05 am to jizzle6609
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This eliminates the drug completely from the books outside of those who need it.
Ignorance.
The people who need it for diabetes can do the same thing. Eat better, cleaner, or a certain way, and can lower their A1C and lose weight. The argument for losing weight can be the same for diabetes control. My stepdad did it for his diabetes and never took the glp1.
There are so many people in here that are talking shite, and know nothing about this drug or how it actually works.
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:05 am to lsu777
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as far as the injection...you are just resetting levels back to normal...not much difference than someone taking TRT if they dont produce testosterone.
It’s not really like TRT at all in a lot of cases, but don’t let the facts get in your way
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:07 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Just to be consistent then,
This is all I ask for is consistency.
But it seems its ok as long as its something THEY need.
We can look over all other data and ways to help yourself get healthy now.
Dont worry about any physical exercise or dieting. Just shoot up with this.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:07 am to SaintEB
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The people who need it for diabetes can do the same thing. Eat better, cleaner, or a certain way, and can lower their A1C and lose weight.
Depends on if you are type I or type II and the nature of your diabetes and insulin production
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Ignorance
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:08 am to jizzle6609
quote:we're only now finding out about the side effects of the JAB. this was a unique situation where this was rushed out the door and phamaceutical companies given immunity from damage.
Im just calling everyone who takes it a flat-out hypocrite if they opposed the vaccine, thats really my point. If any drug has any inkling of bad side effects you shouldnt take it is what anti vaxxers push but when something that helps them lose weight appears, they jump on it like a bitch in heat.
the history of semaglutide is much different; its been tested for decades by the FDA and studies all over the world.
apples and oranges as much as you want a 'MUH HURDUR JAB DENIERS ARE SHOOTING UP AN UNTESTED FATTY DRUG' gotcha
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:09 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:liar
Just to be consistent then, you’re cool with the Covid vax then? Again, mRNA vaccines have been around for decades
the clot shot was completely rushed and we are only now seeing just how much damage its caused
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:11 am to jizzle6609
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Why cant they just eat right and exercise and drink less alcohol?
because they won't without help
this utopia that you keep posting about doesn't exist
if it takes a drug to get people healthy again, then that is a net positive to society
if they fall off, literally nothing changed
the people posting about how they lost weight "the right way" have this weird insecurity thing that I can't understand
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:11 am to SaintEB
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The people who need it for diabetes can do the same thing. Eat better, cleaner, or a certain way, and can lower their A1C and lose weight
i guess they should throw out their insulin as well since they can 'healthy habit' their way away from being a diabetic
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:11 am to TigerGman
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No it doesn;t. You can still easily overeat protein. Calories in. Ozempic kills your appetite pretty much altogether.
Yes, it does. Ozempic mimics the body's natural GLP1 production
Nobody is saying you can't overeat protein, like any mother responsible and non lazy person,you're supposed to get off you fatass and exercise.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:12 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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It’s not really like TRT at all in a lot of cases, but don’t let the facts get in your way
explain in facts mfer...
have you even studied glp and gip? the levels of those in the obese are suppressed...we know that for sure
we know when we bring those levels back up using replacement that they tend lose ~10-20% of bodyweight over a years time due to impulse control being lower
we know it effects dopamine levels that obese get from eating, what alcoholics get from a drink, gamblers get from gambling and sex addicts get from sex
we know that it effects impulse control because the lack of dopamine
we know its good for all cause mortality, the heart, the brain, blood sugar etc
we also know it can cause lack of joy from all kinds of things. not depression level but things like sex and drinking for those not addicted are suppressed. also makes food taste different
but it is no different than trt in real world.
what we dont know is why the levels are suppressed in the first place. could be because they are kept eating and over riding the signal its suppressed and it would come back with losign the weight in other ways..but we dont know for sure yet...will in next 2-3 years though
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:13 am to Salmon
quote:this
the people posting about how they lost weight "the right way" have this weird insecurity thing that I can't understand
and then trying to do mental gymnastics to say 'I GOTTA PAY FOR THEIR FAT PILL' as the reason they can't mind their own damn business.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:13 am to CAD703X
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we're only now finding out about the side effects of the JAB.
And this can’t happen with glp, why?
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this was a unique situation where this was rushed out the door and phamaceutical companies given immunity from damage.
Nah, the research had been out there for years. That’s what the same exact people told us, so which is it?
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the history of semaglutide is much different; its been tested for decades by the FDA and studies all over the world.
Just like mRNA
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apples and oranges
To the intellectually dishonest
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:13 am to TigerGman
Sure you can overeat protein but it’s incredibly hard to do because you feel satiated. Also, your body burns more calories digesting protein than carbs or fat so the “net calories” you eat with protein is less.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:13 am to Salmon
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this utopia that you keep posting about doesn't exist
It did only 50 years ago
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:14 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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It did only 50 years ago
...and?
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:14 am to Limitlesstigers
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No it doesn;t. You can still easily overeat protein. Calories in. Ozempic kills your appetite pretty much altogether.
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Nobody is saying you can't overeat protein, like any mother responsible and non lazy person,you're supposed to get off you fatass and exercise.
you cant overeat on protein...almost impossible to store as far and as you are using 20%+ just to digest protein.
you can not overeat on protein. have tons of studies showing this.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:14 am to Mingo Was His NameO
so the mrna you speak of is a vaccine like we were told??
it will prevent you from getting covid19 like we were told???
must be awesome living at mingo's house where he's always right.
it will prevent you from getting covid19 like we were told???
must be awesome living at mingo's house where he's always right.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:15 am to AndyJ
I feel like every woman in our building is on ozempic. That shite does work. It's amazing how much weight some of these women have lost. But it's funny that they won't admit to taking it. "I'm dieting and exercising" sure lol
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:15 am to lsu777
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but it is no different than trt in real world.
Very different. Often times once testosterone production is stopped or limited it can’t be naturally produced again.
At best, that’s inconclusive with glp and more likely just not true
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:16 am to Salmon
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...and?
So it certainly can exist and did for tens of thousands of years. It’s only stopped existing for like .0001% of our existence so it can exist again. Easily
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