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re: Folks on Ozempic who claim weight loss from other factors

Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:17 am to
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:17 am to
in general the issue is that people consume too much.

the drug makes you not able to do it.

its pretty simple
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23652 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:17 am to
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Depends on if you are type I or type II and the nature of your diabetes and insulin production




Type II counts for 90% of all diabetes diagnosis in the world. The most common treatment....diet, exercise, lifestyle change. The only variable is insulin. Metformin is the most common prescription for Type II, but it does not effect everyone the same. My stepdad couldn't take it for some reason.

So, eat better, cleaner, works for 90% of all people with diabetes. Still, it isn't so easy. The GLP1s help people do this. Just like any form of treatment that help people get over something that they can't do on their own.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:17 am to
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so the mrna you speak of is a vaccine like we were told?? it will prevent you from getting covid19 like we were told???


You’re making my point for me and you don’t even realize it.

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must be awesome living at mingo's house where he's always right.


Not always, but usually because if I don’t know what I’m talking about, I just keep my mouth shut. You should do the same
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:18 am to
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so it can exist again. Easily


what world do you live in?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38052 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:19 am to
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Very different. Often times once testosterone production is stopped or limited it can’t be naturally produced again.

At best, that’s inconclusive with glp and more likely just not true


that you are correct on.

we dont know on glp yet and i mentioned that..will know causes and how or if it can be restarted within next 3 years.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:20 am to
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that you are correct on. we dont know on glp yet


So you were dead wrong, thanks
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38052 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:22 am to
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So you were dead wrong, thanks


no you said its nothing like trt and said we dont know if it can be restarted

I specifically said that

you are replacing the hormone that is suppressed. some people can restart production of trt with selective estrogen receptor modulators and stimulation of LH. many cant be restarted

we dont know on glp

but we do know replacement of both works very well
Posted by WonPercent
BATON ROUGE
Member since Aug 2023
1268 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:32 am to
As someone whose been a gym rat the vast majority of my life, do I respect people who lose weight by taking Ozempic? Not at all. Does their doing so effect my life or is it really any of my business? Not at all.

I'll stick with a keto diet and 45 minutes of gym time 7 days a week, but to each his own.

Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
6493 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:34 am to
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Not only that, but it sends the wrong message societally. The same one we’ve been sending the last 30 or 40 years that got us here with every one being fat, lazy, and retarded. We’ve lost all sense of hard work, dedication, accountability as a nation. There’s so many risks that comes with from your day to day life to national security.


Yeah, like folks my age of 61 are a real threat to national security. I'm all of a sudden going to walk slowly with a cane and attack our country?

I was adopted and didn't know until a couple of years ago that my natural siblings are also big. I do workout and especially swim, but never lost weight. Even as a high school coach for 35 years, I never could lose weight.

The Monjaro that I take has helped me shed 110 pounds and I'm much healthier now. But don't worry, I didn't cost you a penny as I paid for all of it myself.

By your line of thinking, we should all have mandatory memberships to the gym... well let's cover that with insurance instead of weight loss medication... sounds equal. Don't worry, you don't have to spend a penny on my membership to Lifetime Fitness either.

Sounds like my weight loss journey is saving you some money. Gotta go, it's a long walk, but easy now to go down the pier at Costa Maya where I'm doing a strenuous excursion in the forests of the Yucatan! I paid for this too!!
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:35 am to
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As someone whose been a gym rat the vast majority of my life, do I respect people who lose weight by taking Ozempic? Not at all


I'll never understand this
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23652 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:38 am to
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As someone whose been a gym rat the vast majority of my life, do I respect people who lose weight by taking Ozempic? Not at all


I'll never understand this



I'll never respect people who take supplements to work out more efficiently. Just command your body to be more efficient.
Posted by WonPercent
BATON ROUGE
Member since Aug 2023
1268 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:38 am to
[ I'll never understand this }

It's not complicated. One person's putting in the work and the other is taking a shortcut.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23652 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:39 am to
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It's not complicated. One person's putting in the work and the other is taking a shortcut.




How about neither is taking a shortcut.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:39 am to
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like folks my age of 61 are a real threat to national security. I'm all of a sudden going to walk slowly with a cane and attack our country?


So, so dumb

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we should all have mandatory memberships to the gym... well let's cover that with insurance instead of weight loss medication... sounds equal.


That would certainly be a hell of a lot cheaper, but the gym is only a part of the solution

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Sounds like my weight loss journey is saving you some money.


You never being fat would have saved a lot more
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:40 am to
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I'll never understand this


It’s not my thought process, but I don’t view it that much different than nepotism. Many people they feel they didn’t “earn it” and the learning that comes along with that.

Again, not a hill I’d die on but I do think there’s some merit there
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86192 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:43 am to
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It's not complicated.


Didn't say it was

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One person's putting in the work and the other is taking a shortcut.


This is what I mean. This weird superiority thing that is just a reflection of your insecurity.

I'll never get it.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38052 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:49 am to
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This is what I mean. This weird superiority thing that is just a reflection of your insecurity.

I'll never get it.


its the same on many things, people act like they are competing with someone calling it cheating

many people feel lifting weights is cheating, taking protein or creatine is cheating etc

mind blowing.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14676 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:50 am to
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Just know the people scamming the system to get it paid by insurance are causing everyone’s rates to go up


The long term benefits of masses weight loss will save insurance companies billions in healthcare costs.

It is always somehow the consumers fault rates are going up. Roof claims or P.I. suits are typical claims, too.

Insurance rates are going up because of insurance companies insatiable appetite for record setting profits year over year, no other reason. They are a business, so that is what they are supposed to do, but they exploit the consumer infinitely more than the consumer exploits them.
Posted by WonPercent
BATON ROUGE
Member since Aug 2023
1268 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:50 am to
"This is what I mean. This weird superiority thing that is just a reflection of your insecurity.

I'll never get it."

We all have insecurities. But, let's say you want to run a marathon. Rain or shine, you train for months, finish the race and get your medal. Someone else doesn't train and doesn't even run the race, but they buy a medal on Ebay. One person has the satisfaction of knowing that they earned their medal.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:55 am to
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The long term benefits of masses weight loss will save insurance companies billions in healthcare costs.


Link?
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