re: Folks on Ozempic who claim weight loss from other factors

It is 1000% contributed to the exercise, alcohol abstinence, & smaller portions. Ozempic is not a miracle drug. it just forces people to do shite they could have done on their own without paying $300/month. It forces people without will-power to not eat bad shite

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treat diabetes

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Correct, people with diabetes.

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so the people that are on it now...are good for you cause it means they will be off or on very low dose in the future

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It wont fix the facial issues that will occur.

People who take it are identifiable and as such, look unhealthy.

I also think if this is legal Steroids should be on the shelves.

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Cutting drinking and adding exercise are wonderful, but it seemed odd to not give credit to the drug. I mean maybe they lost 5 lbs from the exercise and alcohol cessation

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I quit drinking a couple years ago for 3 months and exercised. Lost over 30 pounds just from those 2 things. Luckily, I've been able to keep it off, but still need to shed a few more pounds.

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that isnt the medicine

that is from losing the weight too fast which is from severe caloric deficit

i.e. lack of protein in the diet, little resistance training, and very low calories causing low output of sex hormones and igf-1

it happens to anyone that goes on the extreme caloric deficit with the medicine or without.

mainly stems from people jumping up in dosage too quickly.

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Well then its a side effect of taking the medicatoin as you arent losing the weight natrually as God intended. You are injecting something into your body to do the majority of your job.

It never ends well. You can spin it how you want, everything has negatives, especially when not used for the exact purpose of intention.

Again, steriods should be on the shelves if people can get this stuff.

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I quit drinking a couple years ago for 3 months and exercised. Lost over 30 pounds just from those 2 things. Luckily, I've been able to keep it off, but still need to shed a few more pounds.

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This is because you hit on the one thing all of these fools wont even talk about, their actual drinking habits and their wives.

Most of these people on this shite drink and take on a lot of empty calories then want to cheat their way out of it.

When you have been pumping vodka, whiskey, beer, wine in your system 25 years and now want to lose weight you dont think there will be some consequences? Fools.

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This. It baffles me how the OT will complain constantly about paying for the fatties health conditions but now that the fatties are doing something about it, with the end result being less strain (pun) on the medical help they need... the OT still complains because it wasn't done the right way by some dude who meal preps and whose entire life revolves around his gym relationships.

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Why cant they just eat right and exercise and drink less alcohol?

This eliminates the drug completely from the books outside of those who need it.

Then these people will be helping in many areas. Less waste, less drugs they need to take, less anxiety, less money spend, etc.

Instead lets just inject this shite.

Drug addict behavior if I have ever seen it.

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now that the fatties are doing something about it, with the end result being less strain (pun) on the medical help they need

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Link?

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so because the FDA approved a new derivative of semaglutide (wegovy/zepbound) for weight loss you find this problematic? i'm not sure what we are splitting hairs with here; usually diabetes and obesity go hand-in-hand so this seems a natural evolution of this.

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I have no problem with people taking it, to each their own.

I have a problem when something fricks up when yall complain. I dont like people who complain after doing something there were warning signs for.

Im just calling everyone who takes it a flat-out hypocrite if they opposed the vaccine, thats really my point. If any drug has any inkling of bad side effects you shouldnt take it is what anti vaxxers push but when something that helps them lose weight appears, they jump on it like a bitch in heat.

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i'm confused; so all fatties are due to alocholism?

this seems like a very specific use case that you're harping on.

maybe you have an axe to grind w/ someone close to you with alcohol issues.

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I do not have an axe to grind at all.

I do not like people complaining when you are making yourself a fricking fatass.