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re: Flood insurance premiums in parts of Louisiana are about to skyrocket

Posted on 2/8/22 at 3:21 am to
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5627 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 3:21 am to
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FEMA has identified some factors that contribute to the ratings; however, their weight is not publicly defined AND most importantly part of the equation includes inputs from private risk models that are exempt from FOIA requests.

I posted before that I think Palantir may be behind this. For those who don't know, Palantir is a very advanced data analytics/artificial intelligence company that has multiple contracts with the govt doing things like terrorism assessments, coronavirus tracking, digital profiling for ICE and who knows what else.

They can deal with vast amounts of data and do very complex modelling.

They were one of the few companies involved in a seminar Homeland Security did on rethinking flood analytics a few years ago so they seem like a natural fit.

They also have a weirdo CEO (no surprise) who has worked with the Clinton Foundation but they also have ties to Trump and are loyal to the US govt and seem to be the best at what they do right now.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32748 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:09 am to
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One house in Old Metairie jumped from around $500 to roughly $1,800, said Johnny Beckmann, senior vice president of Assured Partners, who added he has been struggling to follow the logic.


This makes no sense. Old Metairie is on a ridge line. Hell I know people that had houses in old Metairie and they didn't flood during Katrina. Why are they seeing huge increases?
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:29 am to
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This makes no sense. Old Metairie is on a ridge line. Hell I know people that had houses in old Metairie and they didn't flood during Katrina. Why are they seeing huge increases?



From article in OP....

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a house in the historically flood-prone Broadmoor section of New Orleans dropped from an eye-popping $8,400 per year to $1,700, said Lee Miller of Brightway Insurance.



Seriously, people haven't figured it out yet?

Just learn the new racist buzzword for EVERYTHING -- Equity.
Posted by lsudat10
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2010
2746 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:30 am to
Does FEMA require Louisiana X Zones to have elevation certificates now? It wasn’t that way 6 years ago. They only used to be required if it’s anything other than X Zone. X Zone premium was a standard rate for everyone in X Zones.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5348 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:10 am to
FEMA no longer requires ANY elevation certificates.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9461 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:15 am to
Good to hear that I’ll be giving myself a raise this May.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9694 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:46 am to
In other words, the people who actually pay for their insurance are also paying for freeloaders who do not pay for theirs.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:52 am to
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In other words, the people who actually pay for their insurance are also paying for freeloaders who do not pay for theirs.



THAT is Equity -- NOW YOU'RE LEARNING!!!


And, THIS is what Odumbf*ckCare is all about.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32145 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:53 am to
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This makes no sense. Old Metairie is on a ridge line. Hell I know people that had houses in old Metairie and they didn't flood during Katrina. Why are they seeing huge increases?


Some areas south of Metairie road flooded.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9694 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:59 am to
I learned this a long time ago. It’s no coincidence that the state with some of the highest ratios to poverty and wealth also has the highest insurance rates. The middle class in Louisiana seems extremely small.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19698 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:26 am to

My experience with flood insurance:
For Katrina I had been paying $275/yr for the policy for 2 years, and got about $50,000 from the claim. Rate went to about $335/yr after that.

The neighbors a few houses down the street had no flood policy and FEMA paid them for everything anyway. In fact their house was the first repaired on my street. The lesson many learned from Katrina is that flood insurance isn’t necessary, and in fact makes you ineligible for government aid that you’d get for free if you had no flood insurance. Responsible people were punished for being responsible.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 6:31 am
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29342 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:30 am to
Why is that a surprise? We’ve been subsidizing uninsured motorists and shyster lawyers for decades with auto premiums that are higher than giraffe you know what
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17146 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:33 am to
Vehicle and home insurance in Louisiana is such BS.

You could not get a ticket or in a wreck in over 20 years and your payment is not really gonna get all that low.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:34 am to
One thing people aren't talking about is the fact that they are basing these new "equity" ratings on the value of the house. According to our government overlords, people with more expensive houses have a greater risk because of their value. So, they are basing the premiums on the FMV of the house.

That sounds good - AT FIRST.

However, the maximum payout is $250K on the house. So, basing it on current FMV is a farce. Houses that aren't even worth $250K in Orleans Parish will cost over $250K to replace in the event of a Katrine-type flood.

The rates should be based on replacement value - and that amount should be capped at $250K because that is the most the insurance will ever pay.

Of course, all of that would run afoul of "equity" so you know Raping Joe's FEMA would never do that.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 6:42 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425838 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:39 am to
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Is there some government regulation on what they can charge?

This change is via government regulations
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425838 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:52 am to
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In other words, the people who actually pay for their insurance are also paying for freeloaders who do not pay for theirs.

Historically, people in LA have been the freeloaders and other taxpayers are paying to keep LA's flood insurance artificially low.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32748 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 7:51 am to
We bought a home there in 2017 in old Metairie and it never flooded. We had family snd friends with homes peppered all through old Metairie that didn't flood. Pretty much all were east of bonnabel
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
5929 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 8:03 am to
Where can we find the new flood zone maps? I searched and can't seem to find any new maps
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80858 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 10:46 am to
I’m trying to decide what’s the cut off point of eliminating my flood insurance. Currently paying $450 in zone C that has never flooded. Have no problem paying up to $1000 since I live in South LA near rivers and records are made to be broken. I’d not like it but would probably still pay $1000-$1500. I think somewhere between $1500-$2000 would be my cutoff.
Posted by PotatoChip
Member since May 2014
3678 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 10:55 am to
Got a quote last week in flood zone ae for $1100/yr. Once I get my elevation certificate, they expect it to be half that. My agent explained that it isn’t strictly on what flood zone you are in anymore. It goes by location of property to rivers, lakes, ect. I don’t understand exactly how it works, but I was told the intention is to lower rates for those currently in a flood zone and somewhat balance it raising those who aren’t.
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