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Posted on 6/14/18 at 9:41 am to MLCLyons
The two minute departure difference (actually 75 seconds) would lead to a closely trailing aircraft at cruise altitude. Both were A380s headed to Australia. Here is an excerpt from the Aviation Herald. A 10 second descent seems incongruent with the facts (climb to 1,000 feet then descent).
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A Qantas Airbus A380-800, registration VH-OQK performing flight QF-94 from Los Angeles,CA (USA) to Melbourne,VI (Australia), was enroute at FL310 over the Pacific Ocean about 2 hours into the flight when the aircraft encountered turbulence causing it to descend for about 10 seconds before the crew recovered the aircraft and returned it to the assigned flight level. The aircraft climbed to FL320 shortly afterwards and continued to Melbourne for a safe landing without further incident. A Qantas Airbus A380-800, registration VH-OQF performing flight QF-12 from Los Angeles,CA (USA) to Sydney,NS (Australia), was enroute at FL320 over the Pacific Ocean about 2 hours into the flight, the aircraft had departed Los Angeles about 75 seconds prior to QF-94.
The aircraft initiated a step climb to FL340 at or shortly after the occurrence. The occurrence became known by passenger reports indicating that they had perceived a sudden loss of weight and were holding hands when their aircraft nose dived for about 10 seconds. The captain announced that they had experienced wake turbulence from another Qantas A380, they were now talking to ATC and were about to change their flight path slightly. Based on the passenger reports Australia's TSB have asked Qantas for an explanation. A current theory is flight QF-94 encountered wake turbulence from flight QF-12. On Jun 14th 2018 Qantas' chief pilot explained the trailing aircraft QF-94 encountered some wake turbulence from the leading aircraft QF-12 20nm ahead and 1000 feet above, the wake turbulence caused a jolt to the aircraft for a short period of time with pitch variations of up to 3 degrees. The aircraft climbed maybe 100 feet and descended back to its cruising altitude, the captain took action to avoid further exposure to the wake vortex. There were no injuries and no damage. The occurrence has been reported to the ATSB and the aircraft manufacturer.
The ATSB reported occurrences affecting the safety of the aircraft need to be reported to the ATSB. Based on the facts of this occurrence there was no requirement to notify the ATSB immediately. The operator notified the ATSB within 72 hours, the information was reviewed and no safety investigation was opened.
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 9:43 am
Posted on 6/14/18 at 9:47 am to Sao
quote:Same here, feeling a total loss of control.
I think my panic level would be 10. I'm not a good turbulence passenger at all. Big bumps make me grab for the overhead phantom oh shite handle regularly.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 9:52 am to DemonKA3268
Hit some bad turbulence the other day but wasn’t a nosedive. Nobody was buckled and almost everyone in rows in front of me hit the ceiling including the flight stewardess that was walking down the aisle. Passenger immediately in front of me came back down on his aisle side armrest and snapped it. Longest 10-15 seconds of my life.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 9:58 am to CalcuttaTigah
quote:Ouch!!
Passenger immediately in front of me came back down on his aisle side armrest and snapped it
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:15 am to DemonKA3268
Getting caught in wake turbulence usually happens right after take off. American Airlines Flight 587 crashed after getting caught up in a 747's wash and the idiot first officer unaware of what was going on started smashing the rudder down back and forth until he ripped the vertical stabilizer off and they nose dived into the ground.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:26 am to JG77056
There’s only a few routes, or tracks, you can fly going over the pacific and the Atlantic. They were probably on the same route at staggered altitudes and the lead airplane was above them and their wake drifted down into their path as the wind currents changed.
I’m curious what they were following, the A380 has caused a few upset events recently. Wouldn’t be surprised if they were following one of those.
I’m curious what they were following, the A380 has caused a few upset events recently. Wouldn’t be surprised if they were following one of those.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:41 am to DemonKA3268
Perhaps a result of the lower standards implemented under the Obama administration to diversify the ATC.
The New American.com
The New American.com
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:47 am to Covingtontiger77
quote:I would rather have the most qualified on the job. What a joke.
Perhaps a result of the lower standards implemented under the Obama administration to diversify the ATC.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:49 am to DemonKA3268
Scary, scary, scary. Who remembers that Twilight Zone episode "Terror at 20,000 Feet" (?) This nosedive would be scarier than even that.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:19 pm to DemonKA3268
Muh air traffic controllers
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:26 pm to Placebeaux
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Muh air traffic controllers
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:40 pm to MWP
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I flew out of Los Angeles last year. This could of been me.
Do people really still say "could of" when "could have" is proper? Is this just lazy? ignorant? or stupid?
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:43 pm to JPinLondon
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Do people really still say "could of" when "could have" is proper? Is this just lazy? ignorant? or stupid?
I am just following OT protocol with that. What are you the Grammar Nazi?
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:00 pm to DemonKA3268
I've been training to be a pilot. That could have been me that had to save all of those people. Wow.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:28 pm to DemonKA3268
The article stated that the two aircraft involved were A380s. I recall a few years ago there was a private jet that flew behind an A380 1000ft below it and a half a mile behind it. The private jet hit wake turbulence, stalled and spiraled for 10,000 feet. The pilots were able to recover and safely land the plane but the plane had to be scrapped due to structural damage from pulling high Gs.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:45 pm to Jester
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It was between 1½ and two hours after we left LA
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Something isn't adding up
Actually it isn’t that unusual. Especially when weather restricts certain routes. We took off for Amsterdam last night from Atlanta behind our flight to Dublin. We followed them (and then overtook them due to favorable winds at our altitude) all the way to Europe. Over 4000 miles. Exact routing.
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