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Five Guys, Chic-fil-A, Panera Bread vs. McDonald's, BK, Taco Bell (not food related)

Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:36 am
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38551 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:36 am
For Five Guys, Chic-fil-A and Panera Bread:

Do you think these restaurants are able to hire better employees due to their "relaxed environment or company culture"?

Or do you think they hire better employees because they do a better job for their will and being able to teach them a skill?

vs. the likes of McDonald's, Burger King, Taco Bell or Popeye's.

I ask, because I would have to assume that pay is around the same for entry level positions in the fast food / quick service industry.

Thoughts?
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 8:36 am
Posted by poops_at_parties
Member since Jan 2016
1545 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:37 am to
Birds of a feather flock together. Quality attracts quality.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18670 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:38 am to
Higher standards and attention to detail in customer service.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38551 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:39 am to
quote:

Birds of a feather flock together. Quality attracts quality.


I agree, but when a restaurant is just starting out and hiring employees for their grand opening, they have to start somewhere.

Is it a better hiring process that these 3 restaurants have over MCD, BK, TB and Popeye's? Is it now based upon reputation only? Or do they fish in a better pond to start with? And then ask for referrals from employees that are doing an above average job at their job?
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:39 am to
Add Canes to the higher quality employee group. They obviously have good hiring practices for a fast food joint.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Thoughts?


I think in general better management leads to better employees.


I also wouldn't be surprised if some of those places do pay a little above minimum wage to attract a slightly better candidate.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38551 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Add Canes to the higher quality employee group. They obviously have good hiring practices for a fast food joint.


Completely agree. When I think of good to great customer service in the fast food industry, my first two choices are always Chic-fil-A and Raising Cane's and it also helps that they have a superior product (considering what it is) vs. their competition.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 8:42 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32507 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:41 am to
I don't know about Panera or Five Guys, but I know at Chick-fil-a the owner has to actually work at the business for a certain number of hours per week. They probably just fire shitty employees.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 8:42 am
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38551 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:42 am to
quote:

but I know at Chick-fil-a the owner has to actually work at the business for a certain number of hours per week. They probably just fire shitty employees.


True, however I have yet to encounter a "bad" employee at any Chic-fil-A. They always seem so happy and very eager to please.

It's actually quite refreshing.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:43 am to
quote:

I don't know about Panera or Five Guys, but I know at Chick-fil-a the owner has to actually work at the business for a certain number of hours per week. They probably just fire shitty employees.



They also have very stringent requirements to own a franchise.

You can't just pony up money and say "I want a CFA store."

They do some heavy-duty screening to ensure every store is a well-oiled operation.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:43 am to
I was talking to my fiance about this the other day after going to a Chick-fil-a. I think there are numerous reasons.

I think they invest more in their employees because they require more from their employees. The expectations are higher. They treat their employees well and compensate them well. Because of that, they can be more selective because they have a larger pool to choose from. This allows them to hire based on character and potential, not just availability.

There's also a company "culture" aspect. High expectations and standards begin at the corporate level.

This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 9:04 am
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:44 am to
quote:

True, however I have yet to encounter a "bad" employee at any Chic-fil-A. They always seem so happy and very eager to please.



Yeah but it's Mormon, cults tend to be happy looking on the outside. If you opened a Scientology taco stand, I'm sure everyone would look happy.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 8:45 am
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:45 am to
Their employees are vetted better. I would rather get a new set of dedicated high school employees every 2 years rather than have shite employees that aren't reliable or trustworthy behind a register.

FWIW The popeyes by my office has had the same employees for years, they are very polite and efficient. I've never had an order wrong and them not catch it at the counter before handing it to me.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to management and their desire to work with their employees.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18670 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:45 am to
All of these places tend to hire high school and college students. Outside of management, these aren't career fast food workers. Education aside, I think that eliminates much of the complacency you see at a McDonalds and the like. They know that this job is only a stepping stone to something on the horizon and not simply a means to an end.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51908 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:46 am to
I think it's more of who they target.

McDonalds doesn't give a frick. They give lip service to employee education, allowing ONE 2500 scholarship award per state.

Chill-fil-A actively targets up and coming college students when in spite of probably paying similarly, they also offer a lot of benefits in scholarships, 30 times more than McD
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 8:53 am
Posted by pointdog33
Member since Jan 2012
2765 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:48 am to
They actually conduct interviews to gauge the person's qualifications, while the others say fill out a sheet and you're hired.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51296 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:48 am to
I went to Chic-Fil-A the other day. Instead of speaking into the drive thru intercom, they had employees standing outside taking orders and payment through their iPads. It was hot but the employees were happy and polite.

It was wonderful.

That'd never happen at McDonalds.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:49 am to
Chick fil A also always has a shite ton of employees working at all times as opposed to McDonald's or Burger King having 4 or 5 people trying to man both the drive thru and the inside at lunch time.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:51 am to
quote:

it's Mormon


Southern Baptist.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17503 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Is it a better hiring process that these 3 restaurants have over MCD, BK, TB and Popeye's? Is it now based upon reputation only? Or do they fish in a better pond to start with? And then ask for referrals from employees that are doing an above average job at their job?


Consider the quality of their managers, too. Just sayin.
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