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Fermi paradox
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:21 am
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:21 am
Had An interesting thread the other day here about the odds of intelligent aliens. A new study suggests it may be unlikely.
Of course, we already knew that. It "may" be any probability. We just don't know. Good discussoon though.
https://www.universetoday.com/category/fermi-paradox/
Of course, we already knew that. It "may" be any probability. We just don't know. Good discussoon though.
https://www.universetoday.com/category/fermi-paradox/
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:24 am to holdem Tiger
A while ago I realized all the mathematical formulae for determining how many intelligent civilizations could be out there do not take into account the range of species duration and the span of time since the universe and Earth formed.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:25 am to holdem Tiger
Intelligent aliens are almost a certainty. And there are probably many species far more intelligent than us. The issue is that we are a grain of sand compared to the rest of existence. There are so many planets, even highly intelligent aliens that travel to other galaxies might never find us
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:26 am to Upperdecker
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Intelligent aliens are almost a certainty.
Based on what?
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:26 am to Upperdecker
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even highly intelligent aliens that travel to other galaxies might never find us
We better hope they don't.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:28 am to Upperdecker
Kind of like the theory that when we walk by living creatures in the grass we pay them no attention. Other life could be so far advanced from us that they don’t even notice us
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:29 am to Pectus
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A while ago I realized all the mathematical formulae for determining how many intelligent civilizations could be out there do not take into account the range of species duration and the span of time since the universe and Earth formed.
Yea those formulas are equivalent to flipping a coin or guessing a number. We have so little understanding of even the planets in our own solar system, much less the endless amount of other planets out there that are farther. You can’t make an estimate on how much life there is in the universe if you only have one example, and you have a sample size as small as we do
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:32 am to holdem Tiger
We don't even know what is beyond the obserable universe.
Fermi's ran hot anyway.
Fermi's ran hot anyway.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:34 am to LSU-MNCBABY
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Kind of like the theory that when we walk by living creatures in the grass we pay them no attention. Other life could be so far advanced from us that they don’t even notice us
Terrance McKenna
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:35 am to weagle99
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Based on what?
Do you even Ancient Aliens bro? Everything on that show is 100% true. No doubt.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:39 am to holdem Tiger
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This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:39 am to sweetwaterbilly
Watched a few videos on this and confirmed my suspicion that we know exactly jack shite about the universe.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:41 am to Purple Spoon
What he know about the universe is actually quite impressive given our limited time within it and the barriers presented by distance and time.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:58 am to holdem Tiger
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This leads to an even stronger uncertainty about the number of civilizations, drawing us to conclude that there is a fairly high likelihood that we are alone. However, we *also* conclude that we shouldn’t be too surprised if we find intelligence!”
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In the end, the team’s conclusions do not mean that humanity is alone in the Universe, or that the odds of finding evidence of extra-terrestrial civilizations (both past and present) is unlikely. Instead, it simply means that we can say with greater confidence – based on what we know – that humanity is most likely the only intelligent species in the Milky Way Galaxy at present.
Basically we know ALOT more than we used to, but it's not enough to know whether we are alone or not.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:13 am to LSU-MNCBABY
Or it could be like when you step on a bug and don’t care
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:19 am to Upperdecker
I can't access the link in the op, but it has been suggested that despite us being a grain of sand, organisms with a couple billion years head start on us should have reached us or become obvious to us by now.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:21 am to holdem Tiger
Weird. I have never heard of this until earlier this week I was listening to Joe Rogan and his guest was a physicist named Adam Frank. They went pretty deep on the Fermi paradox.
It was a good listen. I learndted.
It was a good listen. I learndted.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:58 am to Pectus
quote:1+infinity?
A while ago I realized all the mathematical formulae for determining how many intelligent civilizations could be out there
There are way too many factors to even consider guessing that, unless you guess "unlimited"
Posted on 6/22/18 at 10:17 am to Purple Spoon
We don't even know if there's a 9th planet at the edge of our own solar system, but these physicists will have you believe they know what's going on a billion light years away...
Posted on 6/22/18 at 10:20 am to holdem Tiger
Love when scientist try to make humans feel super special
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