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re: FDA just approved J&J single-shot vaccine
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:30 pm to BRIllini07
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:30 pm to BRIllini07
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and fringe ideas such as contact tracing (Considered a rights violation in the US) aren't considered so in Asian cultures.
This is when it goes from a pandemic to something else for me, I don’t care what Asian countries do, because clearly some Asian countries don’t, I’m still American and have certain protections under the Constitution.
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The comments in this thread went about as expected 
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:36 pm to hendersonshands
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This dude loves the bureaucratic red tape.
Bureaucracy and a more strenuous tested vaccine aren't mutually exclusive but nice try.
I am sure the quickly rising number of women having miscarriages after taking the vaccine (some as far along as 28 weeks) would have loved a little less of a rushed product too.
Also, all of those overreaching governors could have not restricted access to stop people from taking hydroxychloroquine. A safe drug that has been around forever and which many are finally acknowledging is effective at treating the virus then maybe there wouldn't have been a need to rush a vaccine. There is a doctor in Lake Charles treating people with it successfully.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:44 pm to hendersonshands
quote:covid is a joke, there's a less than 1% chance it will kill me
This dude loves the bureaucratic red tape
Take the vaccine? Ha! All of the experts on medicine safety and literally doctors themselves say its fine. But I know better than them. I just can't risk it
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
"The issuance of an EUA is different than an FDA approval (licensure) of a vaccine, in that a vaccine available under an EUA is not approved." 'The EUA process is different than an FDA approval or clearance. Under an EUA, in an emergency, the FDA makes a product available to the public based on the best available evidence, without waiting for all the evidence that would be needed for FDA approval or clearance."
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:49 pm to WestCoastAg
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All of the experts on medicine safety and literally doctors themselves say its fine
Yea the medical community has never been collectively wrong despite evidence to the contrary.
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Peptic Ulcers. Caused by bacterium not stress.
During most of the 20th century, the entire fields of Psychiatry and Medicine were unanimous in their certitude that ulcers were caused by stress. Treatment involved expensive drugs and dangerous surgery.
In 1981 Australian doctors Barry Marshall and Robin Warren cured a gastric ulcer patient using antibiotics. In 1983, they publish their research in The Lancet that ulcers are caused by a specific bacterium and 2 weeks of almost any antibiotic will eliminate them. In 2005, they received the Nobel Prize for their discovery.
For 15 years the American Medical community ignored or rejected this discovery. This inertia was not due to caution; it was to protect billions made each year by needless, costly, and dangerous treatment.
We do not have to go back to the Middle Ages for examples of things the medical community was wrong about. As recently as 1995, the average doctor had not completely accepted the bacterium treatment.
I mean I could go on and keep finding more examples but you aren't changing your mind and I am not changing mine so it's futile. Keep wearing your cotton mask thinking it's actually effective.
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:51 pm to stout
Keep fear mongering about a vaccine that all the evidence we have points to it being effective and safe 
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:58 pm to WestCoastAg
Keep missing my point that the data that says it's safe is short-lived at this point. You are acting like there has NEVER once been a drug on the market for years to only realize that it has severe long-term effects. Go try to buy something as simple as Zantac (Ranitidine) and get back to me as to why you can't find it despite it first coming into commercial use in the 1980s
I would ask if you remember when the medical community supported Lobotomies as effective treatments for mental disorders, but in your case, I would support them bringing them back.
I would ask if you remember when the medical community supported Lobotomies as effective treatments for mental disorders, but in your case, I would support them bringing them back.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:58 pm to stout
You are fricking retarded in this thread. I’ve always thought you were a fine poster. That you could be quite this stupid is baffling
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:00 pm to Fun Bunch
Because I refuse to inject something with short-term data into my body I am retarded? I'm cool with that. Again, you do you and I will do me.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:02 pm to stout
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:03 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:when you're right, you are right
You are fricking retarded in this thread.
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:04 pm to stout
Stout makes valid points and you folks come back with "you are a retard"
When inflation from.covid catches up, you all will wish we just let some folks get sick
When inflation from.covid catches up, you all will wish we just let some folks get sick
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:05 pm to stout
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I am sure the quickly rising number of women having miscarriages after taking the vaccine (some as far along as 28 weeks) would have loved a little less of a rushed product too.
sauce?
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:08 pm to Obtuse1
Its a thing that has been going around the internet and the CDC has basically said there is no proof of there being a link between the two
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:10 pm to stout
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Bureaucracy and a more strenuous tested vaccine aren't mutually exclusive but nice try.
The difference between this vaccine and a "strenuous tested vaccine" is that these companies were able to conduct their trials a lot more quickly due to the incredibly large amounts of covid that were prevalent in the communities where the trials took place.
What would typically take a couple of years to conduct was done in months because the participants were exposed nearly immediately to covid.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:11 pm to Obtuse1
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sauce?
If you google it you won't find the data as all of the "fact-checker" articles state it is "probably safe for pregnant women" but there was an interesting article posted on reddit the other day that I wish I would have bookmarked.
It may be too early to tell, just like all data with the vaccine as I have been saying, but the article pointed to some concerning numbers.
I will see if I can find it.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:14 pm to hendersonshands
Yea I get all of that, HH. My concern isn't if it's effective at what it was designed to do.
My concern is any long-term negative effects that we will not have data on for a long time. Thinking purely on that level, and taking in the rate at which the virus kills, I am willing to risk not getting the vaccine. I don't see how that is so controversial.
My concern is any long-term negative effects that we will not have data on for a long time. Thinking purely on that level, and taking in the rate at which the virus kills, I am willing to risk not getting the vaccine. I don't see how that is so controversial.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:22 pm to stout
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My concern is any long-term negative effects that we will not have data on for a long time. Thinking purely on that level, and taking in the rate at which the virus kills, I am willing to risk not getting the vaccine.
Every vaccine that is released has to collect data on the longterm effects... over a long period of time. It's also very unlikely that a little blueprint of a little piece of a little spike protein that is naturally destroyed by your body almost instantly will have any longterm effects. And any longterm effect would most likely be similar to a longterm effect of covid.
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I don't see how that is so controversial.
The longer the virus just hangs out the more time it has to mutate and make vaccines less effective to new variants. The mRNA is pretty versatile as long as they can crack the genetic code of the variants, but the point remains. We're dealing with this shite longer because of conspiracy theories/theorists.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:31 pm to stout
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