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re: FDA just approved J&J single-shot vaccine
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:28 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:28 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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It’s certainly stops many of the droplets that carry the Flu.
Actually, several studies have come out that show that a cotton mask makes the droplets bigger as saliva builds up.
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Do you think surgeons wear masks because it makes them look cool?
Yea because the general population are wearing well researched and tested hospital equivalent mask. Do you really believe that? Of course you don't because that's simply not true. Half the people I see are literally wearing cotton neck gaiters. My drywall guys wear those and still blow drywall boogers all day.
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:33 pm to skullhawk
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Do you think they wear them to prevent patients from contracting respiratory viruses?
Yea this too.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:37 pm to stout
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Cool and I am sure you also have a crystal ball into the future to let you know there were no long-term effects because drugs have never had any long-term complications.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:37 pm to WestCoastAg
Solid well thought out counter-argument and contribution from you as usual
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:38 pm to stout
Right back at ya bud 
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:41 pm to The Easter Bunny
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Not COVID specific, but immune compromised people can’t get all vaccines so herd immunity helps keep them safe
Yes, that is my point.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:42 pm to The Easter Bunny
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Not COVID specific, but immune compromised people can’t get all vaccines so herd immunity helps keep them safe
I brought up (albeit somewhat trolling/“what about the kids”) a similar point a few weeks ago regarding those with childhood cancer. The majority responded with the idea that any parent with a kid with childhood cancer should not go to the grocery store. Fair point given the availability of delivered groceries, but I though it was quite selfish.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:47 pm to skullhawk
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Do you think they wear them to prevent patients from contracting respiratory viruses?
The practice is more geared towards preventing SSIs - fair point. But my broader point was that the practice, in general, is to prevent infection.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:47 pm to Ric Flair
Or pregnant women.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:49 pm to stout
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To get the bad Orange man out of office so the military-industrial complex could start another war and so we could become energy dependent on the ME again. Both have happened in 30 days give or take
WTF is with this hyper-American centric view of this thing?
Ireland cancelled St. Patrick's festivities day to impact a US election that would take place 8 months later? got it. Residents of Victoria, Australia can't visit Queensland, Australia, because it was vitally important to the politicians of Australia that the US start dropping bombs on Syria again? 70% of Japan's population wants to cancel the Olympics, again, because THIS IS ALL ABOUT TRUMP?
No, no it isn't, lockdowns are dumb and destructive (especially this late in the game), but the US response isn't out of line at all with most of the West (Sweden being the lone exception out of anyone you would consider a Western society). In fact the US version of lock downs have been far more forgiving than most of Europe, Canada, Australia (again, Sweden stands out as the LONE exception here of 20+ countries).
Western allies in Asia such as Japan/South Korea aren't quite comparable, as they'll take "suggestions" more strongly than we take restrictions, and fringe ideas such as contact tracing (Considered a rights violation in the US) aren't considered so in Asian cultures.
"Never attribute to malice that which is better explained by stupidity" - what's more believable, a grand conspiracy theory planned out a year in advance by a bunch of dumb-arses, or politicians being completely in over their heads facing a crisis, after they've spent decades convincing the people that it's the government's job to protect them?
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:49 pm to weadjust
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Thanks to a successful vaccination program, the United States has been polio-free since 1979.
From CDC’s website - the only places now that have polio that is caught (spread through transmission) are Pakistan and Afghanistan
Don’t get started with me about polio - my dad had it in 1950 - he died from it 56 years later - he suffered from effects almost all his life
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:53 pm to stout
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Actually, several studies have come out that show that a cotton mask makes the droplets bigger as saliva builds up.
I haven’t seen that, but if you post a link or two I’d definitely read up.
If that’s the case, I wonder if the size of the droplet makes it more difficult to travel at distance.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 8:50 pm to BluegrassBelle
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This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:07 pm to BRIllini07
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Ireland cancelled St. Patrick's festivities day to impact a US election that would take place 8 months later?
Yes, you didn’t know that?
Ballina already had Potato Joe’s mural painted on a wall - so they played along with getting rid of OMB.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:10 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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I haven’t seen that, but if you post a link or two I’d definitely read up.
Cool, then go read about how before covid every study done regarding masks stopping virus transmission proved they don't work.
Even Fauci said so initially.
Then it became political and science went out the window.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:20 pm to Ric Flair
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the problem isn’t one shot vs. two, it’s people willing to get vaccinated vs those who don’t. Offering a 66%ish effective rate vaccine, vs a 95% effective rate seems random.
I will take the very best vaccine that’s available and nothing less because that’s the American way. When I do take it I don’t want the Dollar Store version, I want the While Foods version.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:21 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:sadly the uproar of this virus, which is no deadlier than the flu, cost so many people their livelihoods. And then you have cynical shitheads like you. Such a sad state the world is in.
Sadly, there’s just a silly amount of people not getting the vaccine
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:24 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:comparing this to polio? Lol. A case of body aches and sniffles.
The purpose of the vaccine is the same as the polio vaccine. The more people vaccinated = smaller viral load/less severe transmission. We never eliminated polio, just made it less severe if contracted through widespread vaccination.
It also helps open things the rest of the way back up.
If you don’t get vaccinated and don’t catch COVID, you’re not
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:25 pm to CarRamrod
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sadly the uproar of this virus, which is no deadlier than the flu, cost so many people their livelihoods. And then you have cynical shitheads like you. Such a sad state the world is in.
The "cure" of shutting down will end up being worse than the virus and we will not the full details about that reality for a number of years as there is still a lot to play out. It's much like there are still ramifications for many from the housing market crash 14 years ago this will take a while but so many lives have been destroyed.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:28 pm to stout
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I will pass on it just like I have passed on taking any of the rushed vaccines for a virus that has less than a 1% chance of killing me
This dude loves the bureaucratic red tape.
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 9:28 pm
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