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re: FBI officially Investigating California shooting as a act of terrorism

Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:43 am to
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:43 am to
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God forbid a news network bring in people with different opinions and let them all talk about their perspectives on the breaking news, especially when everyone is short on facts.

You folks will bitch about the most trivial things


When you bring a guy on and he states... "This looks like terr... " and is cut off before he finishes and the commentator states that mental health and the workplace are more inline with the events, then you arent really allowing all angles to be covered. I had no problem with all avenues being explored but it became obvious that they were pushing terrorism to the spot reserved for the family dog.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 11:46 am
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:44 am to
There's actually no question whether it was workplace violence or not. It WAS. That is a factually accurate description of what it was. It was also islamic terrorism. Why is this so hard for some to grasp? I have never seen people melt so hard over simple semantics.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:44 am to
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When you bring a guy on and he states... "This looks like terr... " and is cut off before he finishes


not once..not twice...not 3 times...multiple times yesterday.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:45 am to
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There's actually no question whether it was workplace violence or not. It WAS. That is a factually accurate description of what it was.


was the EoDM massacre listed as "musical concert violence"?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27590 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:45 am to
Nvm not wearing bullet proof vests. Just tactical.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94793 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:46 am to
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I have never seen people melt so hard over simple semantics.


Because bullshite semantics somehow made Boston, Fort Hood and Chattanooga NOT terrorism, when they all clearly were - Islamic terrorism that the President refuses to even accept exists.

That's why. This is Islamic terrorism, either directed, coordinated or inspired by AQ or ISIS - their target criteria is of no importance to me.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:46 am to
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What a stupid fricking direction to take that argument.


Like someone else mentioned, nearly all the other networks are reporting the facts more quickly, accurately, and at least appear to hide their agenda much better.

CNN's agenda was obvious last night. Daytime crew seems to much better...but I'm not going to depend on CNN anymore for facts in a major event like this. During the incidents in Lafayette, Paris, and California, they allocated a huge amount of air time on very one-sided gun control debates within a few hours of the story breaking. Their agenda is obvious and their reporting is irresponsible.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:47 am to
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was the EoDM massacre listed as "musical concert violence"?



no but "theater shooting," which it was. Stop whining about meaningless semantics.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44885 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:47 am to
Had 1600 rounds with them in the vehicle
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133478 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:48 am to
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There's actually no question whether it was workplace violence or not. It WAS. That is a factually accurate description of what it was. It was also islamic terrorism. Why is this so hard for some to grasp? I have never seen people melt so hard over simple semantics.


Sure. It was certainly WORKPLACE VIOLENCE/islamic terrorism.


For brevity, let's just shorten the phrase to Workplace violence/it.


Definitely no agenda with a dual label.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12265 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:48 am to
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CNN was seriously discussing it as a possible,


Not really, it was dominated by the Blond pyscho and the shrink.

This morning, their reporter (not commenter) lambasted Ted Cruz for criticizing the administration before knowing the facts (although Cruz's commentary was 24 hours after the administrations). Yet no comment that the administration waiting a whopping hour might have been a touch early.

Ridiculous bias in all this. They were my go to for elections and these events, but they have been terrible in their gymnastics trying to get away from the elephant in the room
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91602 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:48 am to
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Boston

misguided brother

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Fort Hood

angry mentally ill employee

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Chattanooga


lone wolf 'introvert'
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44885 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:48 am to
12 pipe bombs in the house. I think around 7000 additional rounds of ammo at the house
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:48 am to
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Because bull shite semantics somehow made Boston, Fort Hood and Chattanooga NOT terrorism, when they all clearly were - Islamic terrorism that the President refuses to even accept exists.



I think most people realize those were terrorism. Whoever says they weren't is wrong. Fort Hood was like this incident that was an act of terrorism perpetrated on the workplace. The other two are just cut and dry terrorism. Anyone who would argue otherwise is just a retard.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44885 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:49 am to
3 pipe bombs attached together with a remote control car apparently didn't work
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91602 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:50 am to
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no but "theater shooting," which it was. Stop whining about meaningless semantics.


ok chief, this didn't happen at work. it was a party at an event center.

so why not 'event center shooting'?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466723 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:50 am to
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God forbid a news network bring in people with different opinions and let them all talk about their perspectives on the breaking news, especially when everyone is short on facts.


well there is truth that when it's possibly a white, male, "right wing" person, they rush to that narrative. we JUST had that example

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You folks will bitch about the most trivial things

it's not trivial when they are legitimately pushing memes in order for those memes to become bigger

it's also not trivial when these memes magically align with one of the political parties
Posted by 1 Damn Good Dawg Man
Buckhead Atlanta
Member since Nov 2015
331 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:51 am to
Well, CNN has it plastered across their front page now that there is a link to terrorists.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133478 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:52 am to
But Clochmed was definitely just a brilliant kid who "invented" a new kind of clock he was just so eager to show off after being told not to.

Definitely not a probe by an Islamic radical to test the waters
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138141 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:52 am to
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all i saw for an HOUR leading up to CAIR was that blonde bimbo citing with 100% certainty it was a workplace violence/easy access to guns/mental health issue.
Were you drinking? Because they had several guest experts on speculating that it was terrorism and they cited several reasons for believing so. The experts included former police detectives and profilers.

I'll have to agree with him on that one particular lady. She was zoned in on the "run of the mill workplace violence" narrative. I believe she even mentioned that he was likely set off by the Christmas party as being offensive to his religion.
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