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re: Fauci’s beagle torture/murder is over; 4,000 beagles looking for homes

Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65911 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:06 pm to

You sincerely need something. Possibly Ativan with a side dose of Zyprexa.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29159 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:07 pm to
frick that mother fricking scumbag. There's a special place in hell reserved for that murderer.

Either the dumbest fricking idiots on the planet or Fauci's family with the downvotes.
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 6:32 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108885 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:09 pm to
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Op posted about a crappy facility that was shut down. You're going on about fauci torturing animals.


Yeah, Fauci has ordered the deaths and torture of thousands of animals. "Well he didn't do it directly." Yeah, ok, you know who never directly murdered anyone? This guy didn't directly murder anyone, he just ordered them to be murdered. Great defense.



"Well Hitler never went to Auchwitz. How was he supposed to know about the conditions over there?" Ridiculous defense.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:10 pm to
There’s a special place in hell for Dr. frickey.

Josef Mengele comes to mind.
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37837 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:10 pm to
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Possibly Ativan with a side dose of Zyprexa


his scruples prevent him from partaking of anything developed using animal models beyond murine, you monster!
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35657 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:12 pm to
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only in the clarification of his involvement of "beagle torture" per statements made.

this thread is already gone way of track and Fauci is being discussed outside of that topic
In your opinion, were these beagles not tortured? And in your opinion does Fauci bear any responsibility for this facility that is being shut down?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:15 pm to
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Do you have an actual opinion on the subject or do you need to go ask your wife what your approved opinion should be?
how about you ask my wife since you bring her up daily and know her so well.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65911 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:18 pm to
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Fauci bear


Could be a good seller. Not as good as Trumpy Bear but that's another topic.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30103 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:25 pm to
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Fauci’s beagle torture/murder is over; 4,000 beagles looking for homes

no thanks, i get that its a breeding colony and not test subjects but i refuse to trust anything connected to these people.

i am sad for them but you cannot trust these people so put them all down just to be sure the next super plague isnt being carried by those dogs

Posted by chili pup
Member since Sep 2011
2793 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:30 pm to
Ruh roh! If PETA gets ahold of this they could seriously do some damage to Fauci.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12132 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:32 pm to
I didn’t find how many arrests have been made for animal abuse.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
4936 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:34 pm to
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In your opinion, were these beagles not tortured? And in your opinion does Fauci bear any responsibility for this facility that is being shut down?


i assume you mean the envigo beagles in particular.

no i dont. i think they were grossly mistreated. Torture is intentional and malicious. What happened in that case was negligence. No less forgivable, but different. The envigo site was justly shut down. Its a big stain on animal research and a set back in public opinion. that is FAR, FAR from the norm when it comes to the care and use of animals in research.

Is Fauci responsible for that? no. So lets play out the fantasy that he oversees how every single NIH grant is distributed (he doesnt, realistically, he probably has no say in any, i cant say for sure though). Those funds (grants, not contract, but i digress) would go to individual research. How the research uses those funds to acquire animals depends on the principle investigator (the person doing the research). the
NIH would have no authority over Envigo, a company who is specific purpose breeding beagles for the sale of animals for research. They arent funding envigo to breed animals for sale (not directly). Envigo would be doing that with or without government purchases.

The entity who would be responsible for the oversight of Envigo since they are breeding animals for research that are usda regulated species (dogs are one such species) would be the USDA. By law (the animal welfare act and regulations) the envigo site would be inspected by the usda every 6 months by an appropriate team of inspectors. They have the authority to shut it down, and did.

Since its a private company, the person responsible should be the CEO and the board. their heads should roll for letting those dogs down by providing that type of care and environment for them. If there is evidence the USDA wasnt doing their job and allowed this to go on without repercussion, it would be the state director of the usda that would be in for a shite storm.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68396 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:36 pm to
There is something wrong with you.

But, I have another question. Do you believe all experiments on beagles are torture?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108885 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:44 pm to
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Like who?



Robert Malone
Peter McCullough
Pierre Kory
Robert F Kennedy Jr
Vandana Shiva
Peter Duesberg
Perry Peltz
Robert E Willner
Richard Urso
Ryan Cole
Simone Gold
Michael Callen
Joseph Sonnabend
Richard Berkowitz
Christiane Northrup
Joseph Mercola
Bruce Nussbaum
Sherry Tenpenny
Ty and Charlene Bollinger
Rizza Islam
Rashid Buttar
Erin Elizabeth
Sayer Ji
Kelly Brogan
Ben Tapper
Kevin Jenkins

Should I go on? I'm not running out of people whose lives and careers Fauci has tried to destroy.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7730 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:45 pm to
I will toast the day that short stack motherfricker draws his last breath
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20920 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:45 pm to
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Yeah, but Fauci is still clearly connected to it and he’s not going to get his little puppies to torture anymore and is going to have to go elsewhere. End result still basically the same.


I wasn't saying you were wrong or anything. I was saying that you admitted that some details were missing from the article you provided. It was confusing how you made the connection of Fuaci to those breeders, but you provided additional details after the fact...so I can now see how the connection was made.

That's how a civil discourse happens, so thank you.
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 3:46 pm
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
4936 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:45 pm to
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f PETA gets ahold of this they could seriously do some damage to Fauci.


PETA is nothing but a bunch of crying children who dont know what they want and actually cause more harm to animals than any good they have achieved.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:46 pm to
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There is something wrong with you.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261332 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:48 pm to
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I will toast the day that short stack motherfricker draws his last breath


I'll appreciate the day his lying arse is no longer worshipped as a hero.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108885 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:50 pm to
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So who should I trust here, Kramer or you?



Kramer has betrayed everything he's ever stood for. He sold out to Fauci. Kramer in the 80s and early 90s was right about Fauci. Well before I got to Kramer calling him Eichmann or heard him being referred by that name in the book, Eichmann reincarnated came to mind, and that's just off of Covid, nevertheless HIV. I'll take Michael Callen's word on Fauci over Larry Kramer, who died reviling the man knowing exactly who he was.
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