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re: Fauci says 400k will likely die by January

Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:38 am to
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:38 am to
How can we lose that many in 4 months when it took 6 months to get to 200k. Also I thought wearing mask was going to slow it down so we gonna have more deaths while we wear masks?
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17710 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:42 am to
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Also I thought wearing mask was going to slow it down so we gonna have more deaths while we wear masks?




Just like the stupid mask mandate in LA. We had 22,000 more cases 30 days after the mandate than we did the 30 days prior to it. But yet here we are in OCT and still dealing w/ this foolishness all for political reasons.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72065 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 11:10 am to
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How can we lose that many in 4 months when it took 6 months to get to 200k. Also I thought wearing mask was going to slow it down so we gonna have more deaths while we wear masks?
Only explainable reason is that, due to our asinine actions (i.e. shutdowns), we have simply pushed this back to flu season, rather than appropriately managing it/letting it run its course prior to flu season.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 11:12 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 11:25 am to
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It's him and two other people, the other two have masks, and he has a mask he brought down temporarily for saying something. If paparazzi followed us around they would catch every arse scratch too.


No doubt about that.

I think a lot of people have a problem with him denying everyone else the pleasure he is partaking in. Kind of an a-hole move to say everyone except him is allowed to go to the game.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 11:49 am to
Um, but the "experts" keep getting caught in outright LIES as well as continually getting it just plain WRONG....

After a while, you're no longer really an "expert"....
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 11:53 am to
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400k is not that much worse than a really bad flu season.

I don't think that's correct
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9621 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 11:57 am to
Is it just me or does anyone else not give a frick about what fauci says? frick him and frick masks.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37493 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:05 pm to
It’s only like 3.5-4 times as bad as a bad flu season.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30216 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:05 pm to
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cases have tripled in Stockholm this week.
Who gives a shite about Covid cases? There are millions of cases in our country's massive population. Yet, a couple of hundred thousand actual deaths in 7 months in this country's massive population.

Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:30 pm to
so that math would require over 1k deaths on average per day from Oct 1 to Jan 1.
yeah, that's not going to happen ... not even close. he can't decide whether a mask helps or not and now he's predicting death counts 90 days in advance. stfu.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36359 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:32 pm to
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I don't trust a man who throws like this.


Holy shite how is someone that unathletic
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16433 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 1:31 pm to
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What restrictions did they have and how many salon owners were arrested for giving haircuts?

Anyone tasered for not wearing a mask being more than 6ft away from anyone?

Yeah, shut up.

They limited gatherings of 50 or more back in March and it's still in effect today. They also prohibited visits to nursing homes after theirs got ravaged by it in the first go around. But it looks like they are starting to lift that restriction now.

LINK

Look, I am very interested in the Sweden approach. I think there's a lot of great logic to it and I commend them for making their own decision. But let's not act like they did absolutely nothing in terms of restrictions and then attack people who say as much.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 1:33 pm
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25445 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 1:55 pm to
What is the us death numbers today vs same day 2019? Does that info exist?
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26638 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:30 pm to
So as many people will die from the virus in the next three months than have died in the first 9? That's his story?

I'll take that bet and spot him 100K.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13656 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:36 pm to
Fauci meant to say his 401k will die by January (not 400k). Assuming Biden is elected. Simple mistake. Only off by .25%
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16433 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:57 pm to
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What is the us death numbers today vs same day 2019? Does that info exist?


I actually looked into this a few months ago because I wanted to see how total deaths looked this year compared to previous years. All I could find when I looked on the CDC website is total deaths for 2018 and before. 2019 will probably come out in the next few months.

In addition, because of covid, the CDC does have a running total deaths (covid or not) for the year starting in February. I am sure those numbers are subject to correction after they are reviewed like previous years, but that is the best number we have. So you can use that as well.


When I looked at this back in early September and when I took our total deaths between Feb and August, and then extrapolated that over the year, deaths were on track to go up about 10% compared to 2018.

Now, that is assuming that the monthly death rate I calculated remained consistent, which is a big assumption (I could see the rate going up and I could see it going down). But it was the best I could do.

But if it held up and deaths were up 10% from 2018, that is a rather large jump over a two year period. Although it is not as scary as it seems either.

Because when I compared the change in total deaths between 2016 and 2017 it went up like 2.5% and then 1% from 2017 to 2018. So, if you took the average of those increases and applied it to the 2018 actual to estimate 2019 and then again to 2020, that gives you a very rough estimate of what our deaths would be in 2020 if there wasn't covid. Then if you compare that to the extrapolated 2020 number, it lead to us having 180k more deaths than what we would have expected in a covid-less 2020 based on the past trends.

Now this whole thing made a few assumptions. One was that the last few months in 2020 would see a similar death rate to that of what we saw in February through August (which I mentioned above). The second is that the average annual increase in deaths was a accurate % to use because I was only able to find total deaths for 2016-2018. I couldn't really find it for earlier years from the same source (CDC). that's a small sample size for determining the "average annual % increase in deaths". But again, it was the best I had. I can see if I can find the excel where I did this if anyone wants.

Sorry, I went on a very long tangent because I personally find that data interesting
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 3:08 pm
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